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Hello me and friends we are with a group in Telegram debating the best way not to let Yenten die we have a Dev who is willing to embrace the cause who wants to participate below the link let's revive this beautiful Crypto currency. Wink

Hi,

i snipped your link since i don't want to promote it based on current information.

I don't know you or your intentions but let me tell you, you are not doing a good start. There is quite a bit of talk about you and your group on discord which i am not going to repeat here but the major reaction is distrust. Nobody knows you and you have made no attempt to at least openly state your intentions beyond vague phrases. You should really work on your community relations if you want to gain broad acceptance and be more than some fork with no support.

For a start it would be great if you could clarify the following points:

Why do you need to open a new channel of communication? You are dividing the community and this is bad. What's the problem with using existing communication channels like this thread or the official discord? You would reach way more people this way and not scatter them further.

If there is a rational reason for a separate communication channel: Why the choice of telegram? Do you realize there are people who can't/won't/don't want to install telegram? You are essentially locking out groups of people from participating at all. That includes myself. The way you setup things means that i can't give you any feedback even if i wanted to.

Who are you and what are you doing? No offense but with the scarce (not my fault) information available it seems like you are a superfluous middleman with no actual importance to the project beyond being friends with some guy who can supposedly code C++.

And for the money question: Who is "your" developer and why is he unable to communicate himself. I have seen logs from your telegram group that suggest you are saying he can't communicate because he is studying the code??? Excuse me but this is either gross miscommunication or i'll have to call bullshit on it. My main language is not even C++ but C and i have no problems navigating Yentens source code. It's a pretty simple bitcoin fork and any semi competent developer should have no problems analyzing it even if he has hardly any crypto currency background. It's not a task that keeps you as busy that you can't communicate on the side.

Bonus question: What are your intentions? Please don't tell me you are planning to release some shiny "Upgrade" with even semi complex changes while the network just hardly survived the recent attacks and hasn't fully stabilized yet. This would be like playing with matches while dancing on a powder keg and i have a feeling people might not be all that happy with taking even the slightest risk when the fallout from the recent mess hasn't even fully settled yet. According to the logs i read you are waiting to announce some solution? Solution to what problem? 1.3.1 is working fine so there is no direct problem with it you could solve. Please explain. It seems there is either an extreme language barrier here (to be perfectly honest reading your english is quite painful) or this is not making any sense.

Also, to wrap this up, if you were active in this community you might have noticed that there are other people working with the Yenten sources too. Why not at least try colaborate/coordinate with them? Sure lots of developers are quite antisocial but if you want community support you should at least try to integrate with it. Just tell "your" developer to get over his NIH syndrome (if you don't know what this is look it up).

Cheers Cheesy

+1

I fully support.
Disorder is not necessary.

Hi

I'm not making a mess and yes in an attempt to make the different running at the back of improvements behind the help to criticize does not lead to community, place, or even because the community is not made up of a dozen people only that have some knowledge if you think owners of Yenten.

Yenten is the whole community just want to help step away from that which you quoted.

Want to help - help people?
Where have you been all this time.

With this approach you will have another project.

As I already said, I have always been here, just was not to talk on the Bitcointalk more always read the posts, I am a miner and investor Yenten as the vast majority of the community after this decline and the fact that the Dev Conan to abandon the project I searched for help in a Dev, since the telegram has been chosen only to be a single site where the Dev that we can pass the ideas and listen to people of what can be done as simple as that. In no time I want to get in trouble we all know that the only way that is the Yenten does not have more return have already started to be taken out of the exchanges a sad end to a beautiful Crypto-currency.
Cry

And you think you can stop the delistings? Have you even done any research as to why exchanges are delisting? Problems and possible solutions have already been discussed here and on discord. Also the Stex case seems to validate existing theories. If you have followed the discussion you probably know the proposed solutions so there is no need to repeat them. It's funny that the most pragmatic approach does not even need any serious development at all while your developer seems to take ages hiding behind supposedly studying code. Seriously, no offense, but please add more substance. As is it's just a ton of hot air.

For the slim chance to get any kind of comprehensible answer: Which codebase is your developer working with anyways? Why on earth doesn't he talk to people who have worked with the code before that might give him a headstart if he is really struggling that hard to grasp the concepts?

P.S.: If you have been following the debate you might have noticed that the community strongly prefers a dev team. What happens if your single developer goes missing? Exactly, Yenten will be in same unsupported state as it is now. That is one of the major points that need to be taken care of and keeping your developer anonymous raises concerns of him suddenly disappearing even more. Noone can estimate the dedication, reliability or skill of this guy.

Edit: Before you accuse me of "fighting" again please try to realize that i am simply trying to form an opinion. Some of those questions might hurt but that's how technical discussions work. It's not about giving each other a warm and fuzzy feeling. It's about cold, hard facts.