Quote from: franky1 on November 16, 2018, 08:42:57 PM

craig wright is just a flop flop of social drama
contradicts himself, and just has a "fake it til you make it" mindset

but with that said.

LN is not a bitcoin payment system.
LN is a separate payment system for multiple coins.

now if the bitcoin network doesnt innovate the bitcoin network to be usable and cheap (i mean the actual bitcoin network).

people will deposit bitcoins into LN. play around on LN but not want to get BTC back(slow confirms, only ~2k tx per block, higher fee's than many countries min wage). people will instead want to exit LN via an altcoin thats cheaper and faster.

its exactly like 19th century gold.
deposit gold into a payment network.. play with unaudited receipts of 'promised'(but not guaranteed) ownership(old bank notes). and at the end take out copper brass nickel metals(pennys, quarters)

Well then, if Bitcoin is gold can something not be the crypto equivalent of copper or silver? I do see altcoins having their uses and I know I am in the minority of that especially among the ones who have been here a while but I see it as a scenario that if something comes along and works so well and is tested via Altcoin then Bitcoin will adopt it.