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Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

You are lying again and again. You must be very much pissed off because your house of cards is crumbling on you.With every new lie you are digging yourself deeper and deeper.

Not pissed off that all. I happily keep holding. nothing is crumbling. Only your intelligence is.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

I saw so call test cards so many times and you are not one who can tell me what they are and how they look. For the simpletons I will explain one more time:

LieYou can't have in person since you never run a card program yourself. Everything you think you know how a card program works is based on assumption since you have not been involved yourself.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

- before you get any cards you have to accomplish all complicate procedures
- then you have to get approval from VISA or Mastercard about card visual look and I know that it needs time (1-3 months,sometimes even more)
- then you have to make a contract with card manufacturer about specifications of your card,chip you want to use,etc
- then and only then you get first batch of fully functioning cards (with your logo, names ,number,chip, etc)
- you then test your system(software) , NOT CARDS, to see if your software works or not - CARDS are testing by its manufacturer, not by you and you cant get any cards before manufacturer gives you green light that card is working

So,because I know how it is going I know you are lying. You cant get to test blank cards without logo,number or else. You get fully working cards with your logo,names,chip,security features,etc and then and only then you are testing just your software, NOT CARDS - IS THAT CLEAR !

Lie You can. There must be communication between the minexpay and bank systems. The bank supply an API for that. Bank can just issue one of their normal credit cards for the API and system to be tested. Just like what is done now with the test cards. Nobody said they were the final Minexpay cards. The systems are being tested.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

One another thing - bank is not printing cards. It just proceed your request to manufacturer with necessary data,after you get green light that everything is OK.

Always going to the technicalities, you know what i mean. Who cares who prints its it will always be comissioned by the bank.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

This is not an easy task,it takes many months and there is not shortcut or workaround.
Much more serious companies needed 8-10 months to get cards and now you tell me that superman Boris can get it for 10-15 days(he broke agreement with scammy Novarise Secrecy at the end of October and then started looking for another issuer) Huh

? :

Again flawed thinking. Just because they had a deal with NovaRise with scammed MinexSystems doesn't mean they didn't have other lines of communication open.
You really think that all the work to be done has to do with the bank. the 8 to 10 months work mostly has to do with regulatory work,gaining operating licenses from governments, when a deal falls through you don't have to throw that all away and start from scratch.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

Is that same man :

- who promised investors 84,88% of MNX coin value growth till 15th.Ocotober. 2018
- same man,so call experienced economist, who gives 70% Ponzian annual parking rate to investors + 84,88% promise of value growth,

Lie It was not a promise. It was a target! There is a big difference here. If the minexbank reserve was larger we maybe could have reached it. But nobody will know for sure.
Ultimately you can't control people, people will sell or buy whenever they like. Minexbank can't control people. I think we all wanted it did, but then again if they had a algorithm that could predict human behaviour 100% i think they would starting an entirely different bussiness.
Minexbank is ultimately something that needs to be revised. But first the coin needs to real uses instead of being just a speculative instrument otherwise there wont be natural growth but just price inflation without anything backing it up.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

- same man who are advertising for months cards with all specifications( limits,fees) ,despit he never had any agreement with some card issuer

You forget the card is basically a credit card used as a debit card like has been shares earlier. If i load a card with 20.000 euro's i could spend all of it in day even if my credit limit was 1000 dollars. Because it's debit!
No need to discuss credit limits with bank when all you use is debit.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

- same man who was lying how he has a contract with CSOB bank

Lie!. MinexSystems really thought they had a deal. Its not their fault they got scammed by a con-man

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

- same man who made a deal with proved scammer from Novarise Secrecy to obtain him cards without that so much annoying procedures

Even you could have been conned, nobody is infoulable.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

- same man which company lost 40X !!! its value during a year

Lie!. The company does not run on MNX funds. they have had their own outside investors. They're business is un from their own fiat bank accounts.
They don't rely on the price of MNX.

Quote from: thunderjet on November 16, 2018, 11:02:36 PM

- same man who despite all his failures with Minex,prepare to lauch another ICO with same features as Minex has (parking rate,debit cards,...)

Another Lie Project Republia is by Boris is his son yes.He's perfectly okay to run his own crypto projects. Boris only acts as escrow and maybe advising. Everything else you say in based in assumption.
You whine about having parking, and debit cards. but forget thats only a small part of RPB
RPB is a Ethereum competitor, totally different from MNX. If RPB wants to have debit cards why not do it through white labeling Minexpay. Win-Win for everybody
More money flowing into the Minexcoin eco-system. A partnership in this could be a good thing

"You can't have in person since you never run a card program yourself. Everything you think you know how a card program works is based on assumption since you have not been involved yourself"

- This is exactly what are you doing.You dont have a clue how card program works,you have never run it,but you give other people lectures as an expert.For your info - I worked 8 years in banking sector.Not directly with card program,but Iam knowing very good how it works and what are needed requirements and procedures.All I said is not assumtions(that is what you are doing) but facts.

"Always going to the technicalities, you know what i mean. Who cares who prints its it will always be comissioned by the bank."

- Your statement about " technicalities" just expose you as a complete amateur who dont have a clue about it. One more thing - banks are not exclusive card program issuers. VISA and Mastercard give licenses to the other financial companies too. Banks are exclusive issuers of credit cards only.Debit card can issue bank or some other financial company who get license from VISA or Mastercard.

"Again flawed thinking. Just because they had a deal with NovaRise with scammed MinexSystems doesn't mean they didn't have other lines of communication open.
You really think that all the work to be done has to do with the bank. the 8 to 10 months work mostly has to do with regulatory work,gaining operating licenses from governments, when a deal falls through you don't have to throw that all away and start from scratch."

- Minex is advertising non-existing card program for months.They have no contract ,no nothing.8-10 months are not just regulatory things as you think. There are so much paper works, so many requirements.It is not a task for 1-2 individuals,but for team of people specialized in financial business. Chain2Pay ,company founded by Minex to provide payment card services has NO ANY FINANCIAL BUSINESS LICENSE. NONE. Chain2pay has no any employees,just founder Boris,so I cant see how it can accomplish such complicated procedure not in 8-10 months,but ever. Chain2Pay was founded on 18th.september.2018. All regulatory and card program licenses have to be tied to this company and Minex couldnt obtain them earlier when company didnt even exist.

It was not a promise. It was a target! There is a big difference here. If the minexbank reserve was larger we maybe could have reached it. But nobody will know for sure.
Ultimately you can't control people, people will sell or buy whenever they like. Minexbank can't control people. I think we all wanted it did, but then again if they had a algorithm that could predict human behaviour 100% i think they would starting an entirely different bussiness.
Minexbank is ultimately something that needs to be revised. But first the coin needs to real uses instead of being just a speculative instrument otherwise there wont be natural growth but just price inflation without anything backing it up.

- Yes it was a promise. You can talk about it as a target if Boris did his presentation just for his employees,as a plan for company in the next period. But he didnt do that.He made public presentation for investors,gave false promises ,lied and misleading people deliberately. Only this is more than enough for SEC to make a public example from him and Minex.

You forget the card is basically a credit card used as a debit card like has been shares earlier. If i load a card with 20.000 euro's i could spend all of it in day even if my credit limit was 1000 dollars. Because it's debit!
No need to discuss credit limits with bank when all you use is debit.

- OMG. "the card is basically a credit card used as a debit card" - WOW! - that is such nonsens that made me speechless.

- OMG No2. "No need to discuss credit limits with bank when all you use is debit".- you cant advertising payment cards with all thiers specifications, before you have a contract with card issuer !!! Before that you cant know what the exact specifications will be !

MinexSystems really thought they had a deal(CSOB bank). Its not their fault they got scammed by a con-man

- Yes it is Minex fault.There are so much public evidences that Novarise Secrecy owner is a convicted fraudster,but Minex didnt check his credibility. That thing alone shows clearly how people from Minex are unprofessional,not to say something worse. And you tell me that these people can obtain financial and payment card program license few times faster than every other company!? - OMG No.3

The company does not run on MNX funds. they have had their own outside investors. They're business is un from their own fiat bank accounts.
They don't rely on the price of MNX.

- Well,when some company loses 97.5% of its value for a year it tells so much about company.Obviously, investors has no any trust in it,so they are selling theirs assets as fast as possible to get away from crumbling company. Remember- price of company is closely tied with investors trust in it !!!

Project Republia is by Boris is his son yes.He's perfectly okay to run his own crypto projects. Boris only acts as escrow and maybe advising. Everything else you say in based in assumption.
You whine about having parking, and debit cards. but forget thats only a small part of RPB
RPB is a Ethereum competitor, totally different from MNX. If RPB wants to have debit cards why not do it through white labeling Minexpay. Win-Win for everybody
More money flowing into the Minexcoin eco-system. A partnership in this could be a good thing

- Well,I can say that daddy gifted an ICO to his son. Minex and Republia share same program( parking rates,debit card program,how banks works,etc...) So it can be said that Republia is copy of Minex with some minor changes. "RPB as Ethereum competitor" - WOW, that is a spirit! Unfortunately it is just a dream and nothing else. Dream on.

and that's how you bitch slap scammers.

Grin

The levels these scammers will go to is disturbing