Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 12:30:33 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on October 22, 2018, 07:33:59 AM

What I know for sure is if almost every member of your entourage has been seen in connections with Russians, you just cannot be clean as a whistle. Zero chances. Impossibru.

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Well you are making a claim, yet you refuse to back it up with evidence. This would be quite a convenient cop out for a person with no evidence, but that is not you right? You have all the evidence in the world and presenting it is just beneath you. I mean what kind of heretic asks for evidence anyway right?

Took me 30 minutes.
1. Carter Page ( but admitted that he had worked as an informal adviser to the Russian government.) https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/22/carter-page-acknowledges-working-as-informal-adviser-to-russia-735559
2. George Papadopoulos (A young foreign policy consultant whom President Trump once praised as an excellent guy is the first aide in the Trump campaign to plead guilty in the special counsels investigation into ties between the presidents associates and the Russian government.) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/george-papadopoulos-russia-trump.html
3. Michael Flynn (But White House officials said that Mr. Trump was merely acknowledging what had happened the day before: Mr. Flynns guilty plea for lying to the F.B.I. about his conversations with Mr. Kislyak.) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/politics/trump-michael-flynn.html
4. Jeffrey JD Gordon (The adviser, Jeffrey JD Gordon, said he spoke to Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention in July about Mr Trumps desire to reset the strategic relationship.) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-adviser-jeffrey-jd-gordon-speak-russia-ambassador-sergey-kislyak-us-relations-isis-a7616436.html
Also let's not forget Jared Kushner and Trump junior.

So the entirety of your evidence is guilt via association? Ok, if that is fair game let us break down the association networks between the Democrat party and China shall we?

Guilt via association is of the flimsiest of arguments.

Do you know how FBI interviews work? It is a crime to lie to them, a felony. Pound me in the ass federal prison time in fact.

Essentially in effect, if you make a material statement that is false in ANY WAY, they can decide to send you to prison. If they ask you the color of the socks you were wearing and you thought they were white, but they were actually grey, you are in violation of the law. If you thought you had lunch with some one at 2:15 and it was 2:17, you can get sent to prison.

Essentially if they get more than about 5 minutes to talk to you they will be able to find some technicality to prosecute you over, or force you to plead guilty to a lesser charge.

Did you know there is a conviction rate in the high 90%s in federal court? Do you know how they maintain numbers as high as 99.8%? They pile on penalties for everything until they have a choice between dying in prison or pleading guilty to whatever the fuck they tell them too, guilty of it or not. It is not hard AT ALL to manufacture these kinds of convictions, especially in an FBI shown to be ACTIVELY COMPLICIT in many of the crimes these people are going after.