Quote from: astraleureka on November 21, 2018, 10:25:59 PM

Quote from: vincl on November 21, 2018, 04:49:57 PM

LOOOOOOL.
an asic only has 1 algo. others are FPGA. Pandaminer is GPU not asic..

Wrong. ASICs can be built to be partially generic or support multiple algorithms. This was proven very early, SFARDS had a BTC/LTC chip in 2013. Every single ASIC Baikal has released is multiple algorithm, even if it is just variants like CN and CN-lite on the Giant N.

Quote from: HPrivakos on November 21, 2018, 05:28:14 PM

Zig is maybe a FPGA too, if you look at the running process and the start command, you can see it run FPGA_download.sh at each start

Again, wrong. Zig (aka PinIdea) uses a FPGA controller on the board to manage each hash card, but the actual hashing chips are ASIC. There is a low power Altera Cyclone FPGA used as a controller, not strong enough to do hashing.

Quote from: zigminer on November 21, 2018, 07:45:41 PM

As far as I know, the first batch of Z1, dayun is priced at more than $7,500.

We produce a small amount, but we invest as much as Bitmain, our unit cost is high.

You are manufacturing 28nm chips however, the costs involved are definitely lower than what is happening at Bitmain. If your statement is true, there is a major disconnect from your public products and the truth.

Quote from: hobbyguy242 on November 21, 2018, 09:37:52 PM

Couple things:

For the manufacturer to come here and answer questions and take shots (rightfully so...) shows some support of the products that they are putting out. It would be extremely easy for them to close this company, open a new one and sell a new miner with none of these consequences.

I have been making this statement repeatedly already - THIS IS ALREADY WHAT IS HAPPENING. PinIdea was previously a manufacturer of X11 miners and released a Cryptonight classic miner in late March. Shortly after the drama about the Cryptonight algorithm switch, PinIdea's website vanished and all mention of their products dropped off the net. ZigMiner is clearly a rebranding of the PinIdea company despite their denials:

The units are physically identical to PinIdea. The PinIdea's Raspberry Pi was custom fabbed and had a golden PinIdea logo on it, I would be interested to see if that is still present on the ZigMiner controller board.
The specifications for the ZigMiner R1 is identical to the PinIdea RR-200/210, and not similar to any other Cryptonight miner on the market.
The specifications for the ZigMiner D1 is identical to the power draw per-chip for the PinIdea DR 100 Pro.
The firmware on the ZigMiner Z1/Z1+ has a few files that explicitly mention PinIdea, and the general structure of the firmware is identical to the firmware on the RR-200/210. The RR-210 used the same FPGA_download.sh file in /root to upload the bitstreams to the FPGA controller.

thanks for detailed information. i found some pinidea infos too but your information and explanation is great. i wonder one thing dear astraleureka how do you know this much information. do you think correlation between old sfard and baikal like pinidea and zigminer