Quote from: TheBiochemist on November 24, 2018, 12:33:04 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on November 22, 2018, 12:01:08 AM

Quote from: Dig Bicks on November 21, 2018, 10:57:53 PM

Suicide rates and depression are rising because of Capitalism. Workers are getting screwed over, the wealth they create is stolen.

I know a lot of you, especially americans are brainwashed.

-Climate change is a direct result of a profit driven society, environment doesn't matter only the dollar
-"hurr durr socialism/communism never worked millions died hurr durr" Capitalism has killed much more people directly with poverty, inability to afford healthcare, etc
-. Capitalism is nothing but slavery with a new name, owners of capital are the slave masters
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If you think you create wealth as a worker, ask for more money or go work somewhere else where your "wealth creation skills" will be recognized.

If not, you can start your own company and create wealth for yourself.

Stop complaining about other people's wealth. Fix yours.

Capitalism is the best, natural system to separate and reward people based on their skills.

Early in my engineering career, I recognized that I needed to go solo, so I quit after 2 years at a multinational company and was immediately hired as an independent consultant by their competitor and paid four times as much. Then I started my own consulting company which I sold 30 years later.

Don't be afraid to demand more money from the "evil capitalists" or better yet, become one.

Invest early, save as much as you can, live within your means, retire early and enjoy your life.

Whatever you do, don't complain. Nobody likes lazy people who complain for no apparent reason.

Capitalism is not a good force, at least not any longer. It causes some to buy up medical companies with good cures and kill the medicine, just to protect older patents which has not yielded profit yet, money > medicine. Some also prevent curing dieases while there are expensive medicines that slows a disease down, money > life. We frac, use tar sand, drill oil at sea and devastate rain forests to export meat, money > environment. We work and work and most of the tax money goes to paying national dept interest and the military sector, money devastates our planet and creates a war machine to protect it. We must have better goals then this, when money is the goal, we only enter a state of cyclical consumption, things are simply made and thrown away over and over. A good society should not behave like this, it should stagnate and be maintained like anything else that has been created to its optimal state.

When privatization hit the health care sector and schools in my country it went to shit right away. Rich areas got better schools and hospitals instantly, leaving large groups with few teachers and long health care waiting times in the poorer and more overpopulated areas.
Capitalism leads to corruption and violence on a grand scale. There is no dam room to start your own company, if 3 billion did that right now do you think they will have costumers??? Do you thing the system can support everyone to get rich from working?
NO, it is designed to make very few very rich and put the rest in day labor, going from pay check to pay check, your story is great but this feat can only be achieved by a very few, the economy is NOT growing, it is impossible for a company to grow without another LOOSING value, its just quick maths, simple facts

Resources today is being used to profit, even water are being used to make nice cloths and produce meat, while many have none to DRINK. This is insane, waste away water to create products that only a few % of humanity can afford or enjoy, when we run out of clean water, is capitalism still good? when we have no rain forests and massive amounts of pollution due to capitalistic interests and our atmosphere goes to crap, is it still good?

Anyhow capitalism will be what destroys the earth, we already behave like a virus for the earth and we are growing fast in numbers while the economy is stagnated = more poverty + depletion of resources.

The capitalist system is the best system invented by humans. Protection of the environment and natural resources should be the job of the government. The rules should be set by the government agencies not ingrained in the "economic system".