Quote from: PharmEcis on November 24, 2018, 02:05:12 PM

Quote from: anjanner3 on November 23, 2018, 11:04:30 AM

Why, to clone new coin that is not already ready with full product??
YOu guys clone haven protocol because the include governance fee???
How can new project survive without any funds??
You are just planing to copy paste haven code.. what if haven't don't open source their code??? what will hapen to free haven protocol??
haven will to remove governance fees when community members want it and also i was one of the community member to vote for governance fee to list on exchange. Do you think big exchange list coin for free??
you are just trying to copy past others hard work.. if you can then you make your own onshore/offshore before haven protocol launch mainnet..
you clone coz, of governanc fee (which they will remove in future) and premine (developers need fund for their family as they are working full time for these project) have you ever work for free???
if you think fees & premine coin are not worth then what will you say to ico projects???

These are my thought for these coin..

Well most of us think Haven is a scam and this coin was started as a joke. However this joke has taken new life. If you are present for our meeting that is currently on going RIGHT NOW, you will see that we have huge plans that will leave Haven and others in the dust.

I hope you realize that everything Haven has posted that we copied is just a copy of Monero with a Haven graphic on it.

I've been self employed for over two decades. I understand better than most who read this thread that many times, you work tremendously hard before you ever get paid. Getting paid without showing proof of any work is typically called a scam and when you look at many other crypto coins... You just might see a pattern. I think we are about to bust that pattern wide open.

We aren't even doing to do the offshore storage because that is a scam that cannot work, no matter what the Haven devs who really aren't economists say. Wink

So, most of your post sound like a con man trying really hard to convince me that the subject at hand is not a con. Am not saying your project is a con, but i get that healing snake oil merchant vibe from you. Also, if you have such an issue with haven, then why did you utilize their name while naming your project? You could have named this project candida and still implemented all that shit you keep quipping about. But by utilizing haven while naming/constantly talking about haven and stating that you intend to implement everything that they do, that indicates that you actually love what haven is doing and you just plan to co-tail their success.

  You could have just kept haven out of your name and grew your product organically like haven did. As far as am concerned, your product falls in line with those ebtc, etherdark, monerodark or whatever other bs clones that curtail a big projects name. As for your hash rate, this is crypto where ppl will mine boobie coin with hope of making a profit. Shit you can create a thread about placing feces on a blockchain and if you make the coin mineable, a bunch of ppl will mine it.

  So i wonder how much hash you will really have if you didn't have that haven title in your name/ riding their co-tail. Haven is a clear success, so it doesn't take a genius to deduce that when ppl see the name/hear your quip about emulating it, they will easily jump on board, hoping it replicate haven success. So stop complaining about the hate/fud cos we all know that you like it. You knew what you were doing when you incorporated that name into your title. You basically took short cuts to get free publicity.

  As for haven been a scam, they must be one helluva scam group, cos bittrex listing requirement has seriously tightened up over the past yr and they easily slid in there. So stop acting like the jealous concubine and accept your place in the ecosystem. If you want to be taken seriously, fork your coin in this early stage, rename it to something completely originally and stop interjecting haven into every post. Also create and implement your own roadmap, don't wait to emulate haven's roadmap as you stated cos haven is a scam right?

  Haven devs organically did it by themselves, and you just sound like a dick rider (excuse me) Not saying your project might not end up been successful, this is crypto after all. Speculation can turn a turd into the price of gold but you shouldn't act all surprised/disappointed of the hate/fud cos you intentionally courted it and we all know that internally, you loving it.