Quote from: salsacz on January 29, 2014, 02:13:28 PM

Quote from: DLXS on January 29, 2014, 02:04:43 PM

On the other hand, I don't understand what you are doing with marketing. It's important to reach people massively, true. But you want to spend crazy money on things with little ROI. Take redbull for instance: they knew they couldn't go for big things because they were limited and therefore, decided to invest in LOTS of little things (all alternative sports) in order to become big and popular.

Thank you. For example we can have LOTS of little tournaments, people are now preparing chess, poker and starcraft, other sports/games are still free. As soon as the client will be launched, we will more concentrate on looking for people who could organize other tournaments. Meanwhile I would concentrate on studying Nxt in scientific articles or whitepaper. So we could present us without guessing then.

I can help you organise a poker tournament. I think on Stars you can create your own tournaments (haven't done it for years but...) I'm well known in the Spanish poker community and I believe I could bring some people on board

But let's wait til client is oficially released

BTW, Salsacz, you do a great and hard work, my criticse was trying to make it better, if possible/it makes sense

Quote from: NxtChg.com on January 29, 2014, 02:13:45 PM

Quote from: DLXS on January 29, 2014, 02:04:43 PM

I'm a fish here and I hardly understand all you talk about. However, I have read everysingle page of this thread and I own a few thousands (not many) NXT.

That deserves a medal. Tell me your address. I am not a whale or even a dolphin, but I'll send you some.

Quote from: DLXS on January 29, 2014, 02:04:43 PM

Straight to the point: what I see from the outside is that time and money is been wasted in things that are not so important.

Look, we're just a bunch of people. We're doing the best we can.

hehe no need, better spend those NXT in some project Cheesy

! I studied computer science but never worked as. Therefore I can follow the thread til u talk about specific things from dev side and I enjoy it

I know you are doing the best you can, I'm happy you read my suggestion and if it can make a 0.0001% better then even more happy

I believe in this that's why I congratulated you all at the end of my post for your hard job

Quote from: nxtgt on January 29, 2014, 03:08:14 PM

Quote from: DLXS on January 29, 2014, 02:04:43 PM

Hi guys,

I'm a fish here and I hardly understand all you talk about. However, I have read everysingle page of this thread and I own a few thousands (not many) NXT.
Straight to the point: what I see from the outside is that time and money is been wasted in things that are not so important. Sbdy said "better think about a good voting system now than change it later". People, we CAN'T have the best product from the beginning. Things have to appear and then you can see the problems it arises and improves it. Lots of time is being wasted in important things but without reaching a conclusion (beause it's descentralized and it's difficult...) and this is damaging NXT because it will have competitors soon plus expectatives are going down (yes, it's a long term thing, but damnit, what's the point anyway?). I suggest to decide for something fairly good for each thing (gold, aluminum? It doesn't matter now, brands can be changed, specially when they haven't been heavily promoted yet, don't talk so much about these tings that don't affect NXT performance so much) and if needed, change or improve it in the future.

Remember that the best product can never be the first one released. You need something being adapted and while community grows, NXT will be improved and reach the final stage when it will be a real product. We are trying to build the house from the roof.

On the other hand, I don't understand what you are doing with marketing. It's important to reach people massively, true. But you want to spend crazy money on things with little ROI. Take redbull for instance: they knew they couldn't go for big things because they were limited and therefore, decided to invest in LOTS of little things (all alternative sports) in order to become big and popular.

Having said that, I admit it's easy to criticise without giving clear solutions, but I'm not an expert and don't know how to do it + lack of time. But I hope that those who can make this happen will take this into consideration, either they agree or not, at least to think about this.

EDIT: I have to sy you are doing a BIIIIIIG effort and this is highly appreciated. I'm just giving my two cents to try to make it better in the only way I can.

The reason is because of a reluctance to get organized. No one will even address the possibility that it may be more efficient to communicate in dedicated threads with focused discussion rather than one thread with 50 topics floating around.

That shopuld be the best but then com. will probably miss lots of new stuff. However, everything would go much smoother... Guess it's not that bad here if everyone focus on the important stuff (and not about colours to get started)

Samy