I really didn't say anything about them not delivering on the promises/project been a scam. Just that i find it weird that they feign an ignorance of the reason for the fud/hate and making claims that haven is a scam when they intentionally interjected the haven title in their name (for free publicity) and made plans to emulate haven's protocol (again for free publicity)

  Like i said they could have named this project candida, grown it organically and implemented all those promises, but they intentionally took short cuts to co-tail a well known project. Simple as that. I will check out their discord later, but it can't really change the stance of my post, cos its not directly related.