Quote from: pugman on November 27, 2018, 09:32:43 PM

Thank you for a good post. Appreciated.

Quote from: pugman on November 27, 2018, 09:32:43 PM

Quote from: Anduck on November 27, 2018, 08:31:57 PM

I don't follow your logic here. If DT exists, I should be on it. If it doesn't, that's even better. Also regardless of this Vod abuse case.

Yeah no, that's a weird way of seeing things, but very prevalent. Why would you want to be on DT even, so that you could give Vod a taste of his own medicine? And then what? Honestly, you can just stop giving a fuck about the trust score of yours because it DOESN'T MATTER(FUN FACT!), and if you really are persistent on this, ignore vod from your trust lists, you could try persuading DT1 members to remove Vod but that is highly unlikely.

What's weird about "If DT exists, I should be on it. If it doesn't, that's even better."? I can't choose if DT exists or not. If it exists, I should be on it. If it doesn't, I think it would be better for everybody. As it does exist now, I could maybe do something to make it better by being on it myself.

As said in earlier posts, I would want Vod to go back to "let's resolve this personal issue" mindset. He had that when he thought that I were on DT as well. I wouldn't care about my trust score very much, but I know it does affect my trading activity in here. It's just how it is, sadly. Not everyone can go and see the ratings.. Many (often new people) just dismiss users without deep green trust score, for certain things.

Quote from: pugman on November 27, 2018, 09:32:43 PM

Quote from: Anduck on November 27, 2018, 08:31:57 PM

What exactly am I refusing to listen? I see DT merely as a list of people who are unlikely to scam others. Nothing more. What do I not see here?

DT is definitely not that type of lists.

It isn't right now, but that's what it should be and was made for.

Quote from: pugman on November 27, 2018, 09:32:43 PM

Quote from: Anduck on November 27, 2018, 02:55:27 PM

The current situation is beyond ridiculous. DT1 members who have added Vod on DT2 are not acting about it, because 1) it's just one case 2) they're inactive 3) this case is too complex, takes a lot time to objectively comprehend what happened 4) they simply don't care.

Or... There's another possible and realistic reason and that is: Vod has given out so many ratings to people that are actually valid and rock solid, and removing him for one rating is just outright stupid. Removing Vod would only lead to more chaos than this. Vod shouldn't have done what he did about him asking you to remove his ratings, but he did it anyway, naivety happens, but he could try making up for it, its his wish. And by making I don't necessarily mean to remove the rating completely.

This case isn't complex, either people are way too stupid to understand(which they are) or they don't care enough.

What you described is my option #1. It's just one case, not worth enough to override good deeds of Vod. Removing him for one rating would be bad, yes.

This case is actually quite complex (at least to me even though I lived it.) It escalated way beyond what it should have. Vod blocked me and refuses all direct communications. I provoked him a bit by telling him that I don't necessarily see him as trustworthy.. Shouldn't have said that to him, right! Still not my fault that he abuses his position against me now. Basically his misunderstanding on top of his misunderstanding, and Vod not wanting to go back to that and understand his misunderstandings. Add a big ego and elevated position to this and you have a nice DT abuse case ready.

Quote from: pugman on November 27, 2018, 09:32:43 PM

How is adding you to DT changing anything?

Would maybe make Vod think about his behavior and would maybe make him want to find a resolution, just like when he thought I was on DT. I assume this "will to seek for resolution" would happen as it happened when he thought I was on DT. Also I would obviously do what I can to portray DT as the list of people unlikely to scam, and nothing else.