Quote from: Waradlain on November 29, 2018, 04:28:47 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 29, 2018, 04:10:30 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on November 29, 2018, 03:02:37 PM

My thread is still alive but definitely went the wrong way.

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 28, 2018, 05:19:43 PM

put in place actual open fascists...

I know that you like to demand proof so now it's my time to ask. This is quite bold statement, so I'm sure that you got some.

I can prove the fascism, but I think what you are asking is for me to prove that Western intelligence agencies overthrew the elected government. This is always going to be largely debatable due to the very nature of the business of this criminal activity, and the need for plausible deniability, but I think you know this and are taking advantage of this situation. If you want information regarding fascism in the Ukraine let me know I will provide sources.

If you actually have interest in the details of how it was done start a thread about the topic and I will chime in, however I suspect you did this to try to give the impression that I don't meet my own standards of evidence. The difference is this is a related side issue, not the core topic of discussion, and I demand evidence for direct arguments in support of a premise. You are nitpicking a tertiary issue of a somewhat casual discussion.

I won't start anything. You came to my thread with a serious allegation, I expect that you have strong evidence of this since we can't assume that your an empty windbag.
So again please

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 28, 2018, 05:19:43 PM

put in place actual open fascists...

I already responded to your criticism, and stated I am more than willing to discuss it. Due to the inherently speculative nature of how real world intelligence operations operate systematically erasing as much data leaving a trail to them as possible, a discussion about this would be quite expansive to the point of being quite off topic in this thread, something which I am not willing to risk to satiate your demands. If you start another thread to discuss this side topic in more detail I would be glad to there, I will however not be addressing it further here.

Anyways lets start with what is already in the open:

http://liberationschool.org/the-roots-of-fascism-in-ukraine/

https://off-guardian.org/2016/11/05/ukraine-fascisms-toe-hold-in-europe/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/29/ukraine-fascists-oligarchs-eu-nato-expansion

https://medium.com/@gmochannel/us-staged-a-coup-in-ukraine-brief-history-and-facts-898c6d0007d6

https://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22758-meet-the-americans-who-put-together-the-coup-in-kiev

Obama admitted that the United States had brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/228379-obama-power-transition-ukraine/

https://sputniknews.com/news/201502021017670687/

https://www.rt.com/news/233439-us-meddling-ukraine-crisis/

https://www.rt.com/news/158800-us-biden-ukraine-gas/

Ron Paul: Western powers fomenting Ukrainian conflict, US should stay out

https://www.rt.com/usa/156512-ron-paul-ukraine-war/