Quote from: Anarchist on November 29, 2018, 11:58:22 AM

Zen won't go below the $1, too late guy, sorry if you wanted to set up a node for cheap. Horizen is suffering less compared to some altcoins. When it changed the name, the team did it after listening to the community, I mean they considered the community and didn't make the switch suddenly. Did you participate?

Horizen has a stable team for a long time now, you may see about its marketing strategy, but did you check what the dev. did for the tech? In 1 year, I believe the team did a huge work so far (and not only for Horizen but also for the whole crypto community).
You may don't like the name, I am personally ok with your opinion, anyone shall have one. If you call the name good for dumbs, I wonder how you would call the coins with a really dumb name

Hey anything is possible, ZEN ain't likely to go up 2x from here anymore than btc is likely to go up, where is the money going to come from??

On the other hand its xmas time and people want to cash out and pay the bills, lots of people who played crypto in the last two years bought it with credit-cards, ... they need to get out; HODL is for morons, unless of course you got your zen for free by mining, ...

Now that said, mining ain't possible anymore cuz china is giving away the 'z' miners that essentially made the gpu miners into boat anchors, ... and of course there is no point of buying an antminer 'z', cuz by the time your do it bitmain has milked out all the easy difficulty

Now for awhile ZEN said they were going to do something about the problem, but in the meantime BITMAIN has made their algo's even more flexible than any of the z-coins with regards to adaptive mining, regardless of what changes are made to the POW, so now mining is dead, fine

What I liked most about ZEN was that they paid people to run servers, which is good because like in bitcoin, now that mining is dead, who is going to run servers? Sure they can get 'change', but thats only if you find a block, but only the chinese find blocks, cuz they runn miners at 10X

So in time BTC will sat on its rear and do nothing, but ZEN looks better every day

I think I turned off my GPU rigs back in April, and never turned them back on, well except to hack bitcoin, but that's why I like gpu rigs they can be deployed for anything including ML, but BITCOIN hw is a closed system, as BITMAIN doesn't give you anything to re-deploy the HW, cuz they want it to 'call home'. So I don't buy BITMAIN, because I hate 'closed hw', sort of reminds me of APPLE Sad

Lastly, I'll say that if you participated in the faux politics of ZEN, then you are NO anarchist,