Quote from: m0gliE on November 29, 2018, 01:04:25 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 29, 2018, 08:25:57 AM

Yes, and? GM is moving overseas because they are failing. They are failing because people aren't buying the cars they are producing. People aren't buying cars because the value of the currency has been so debased, no one trusts the economic system any more. As a result people aren't taking risks and starting business that would employ people and allow them to afford to buy more vehicles.

Just popping by to make you notice how funny it is that TECSHARE refuses any kind of argument or hypothesis which is not backed up by at least 3 different sources of raw data (not infographic mind you cause that can be manipulated, raw data only please) and still in a single paragraph you find 10 different hypothesis or logical links that are backed up nothing but his good faith:

1-GM is failing
2-GM is moving overseas BECAUSE they're failing
3-People aren't buying the cars they're producing
4-GM is failing BECAUSE people aren't buying the cars they're producing
5-People aren't buying cars
6-No one trusts the economic system
7-It's because currency is heavily debased
8-People aren't buying cars because they don't trust the economic system
9-People aren't starting businesses
10-Starting businesses is what provides economy with jobs

Funny thing is that you're exactly "debating" like this asking everyone to prove with empirical data EVERYTHING they say. Sounds ridiculous right? Well that's what you do, but in a less organized way because you don't even take the time to separate the different hypothesis you're asking other ones to prove. At least it would make it possible to move forward...

In your paragraph I'd say numbers 2/5/7/8/9 are false at least. But hey, burden of proof isn't on you of course Kiss

Now you need to make up lies about me to make your arguments? 3 sources eh? I don't recall ever demanding a specific number of sources for anything but please feel free to quote me (not that you can because it never happened). This is just your SOP.

I ask for people to state a clear premise and back that premise with empirical data yes. This is the standard by which practically any professional operates from. The difference between you and me is that I ask for empirical data in relation to the core topic, while you use this deconstructivist method to endlessly divert the discussion on to side topics in a pathetic and refractory attempt to "hold me to my own standards".

Really all it is though is a sad divisive move designed to use up as much time and energy as possible WITHOUT actually refuting any of my core arguments, supporting any of your own premises, or providing a drop of empirical data.

Hey but just for fun to demonstrate how perpetually misinformed you are to everyone else, here are some sources:

2-GM is moving overseas BECAUSE they're failing

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/11/27/economists-advice/2120444002/

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/money/general-motors-fail-article-1.374800

https://fox17online.com/2018/11/26/gm-to-close-canadian-plant-but-thats-just-the-beginning/

5-People aren't buying cars

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/03/01/february-2018-u-s-auto-sales/384210002/

http://www.autonews.com/article/20180709/RETAIL/180709775/gm-car-sales-sedan-crossover

http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/13667/used-car-values-are-plummeting-faster-and-faster-across-america-report-claims

http://www.autonews.com/article/20170720/OEM01/170729956/uaw-gm-talking-about-impact-of-slumping-car-sales-on-u.s.-jobs

7-It's because currency is heavily debased

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/08/-us-inflation-is-the-worlds-most-important-economic-variable.html

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com/index.php/easyblog/entry/3-ways-how-inflation-destroys-an-economy

https://thedailycoin.org/2018/11/04/inflation-is-destroying-the-middle-class-blame-the-fed-video/

8-People aren't buying cars because they don't trust the economic system

This is a misinterpretation of my words. The debating of the economy results in less risk being taken by would be business owners who would otherwise be employing people, enabling them to afford to buy more cars.

9-People aren't starting businesses

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-small-business/wp/2015/02/12/the-decline-of-american-entrepreneurship-in-five-charts/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6abcb8ffdce0

https://www.coastal.edu/media/administration/honorsprogram/pdf/Alyssa%20Sharples.pdf