Quote from: Troysen on December 01, 2018, 09:27:55 PM

Although I share your optimism and positivism in this ecosystem so lowly, I want to clarify a couple of things, the money never comes from "thin air"

just wait a couple years
many people who deposited fiat to buy BTC in MTGox still believe that they are owed BTC. even when there was not enough BTC in mtgox reserves to honour those trades

just wait a couple years
when people lock funds into LN factories and have factory hubs hand them unaudited tx's(not on blockchain) to open channels
and then just circulate unconfirmed balance back through a factory because a factory prefers to only hand out channel open payments instead of fund onlock broadcastable onchain tx's

just you wait for boiler room fake ETF pretending to be fully backed BTC ETF when they are really just CFD gambling sites