Quote from: dothebeats on December 05, 2018, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on December 05, 2018, 08:15:10 AM

my opinion on manipulation is that it's less prevalent and more difficult to pull off than people think. the market is globally distributed, with some exchanges in shady and unregulated jurisdictions and others tightly regulated. certainly, large players may try to manipulate the market, but it's easier said than done. what often happens is a smaller whale gets eaten by a bigger whale---or he gets eaten by the market as a whole.

In the current times, perhaps it's even difficult to pull off, but always remember that even in closely and highly regulated markets, this is still occurring without anyone being prosecuted and brought to the courtroom. Knowing how scattered and large the market is now, it's hard to pull it off, but also knowing that a single sell-off, even just tens of thousands of bitcoin in the market, can flood the whole market, it's still easy to do this for those who have the $$$ and BTC.

i've seen whales dump many thousands of coins, trying to put a lid on a bull market. price immediately recovered and those whales got run over.

whales can't really manipulate the market. they can only push price where it was already going to go. whales who fight the market (trying to manipulate in the wrong direction) don't stay whales for long.

frankly, if we're in a bear market, and a whale thinks price is gonna drop, they should sell. if supply is strong on the OTC market, it's gonna spill over onto the exchanges.