Quote from: realr0ach on December 06, 2018, 06:04:24 PM

As usual, the buy support on drops mostly exists ONLY on the fraudulent exchange Bitfinex. Nothing fishy to see here!

Bitfinex is certainly dodgy. They've admitted as much with their talk about needing to bank like criminals. What have they really done that's fraudulent though?

Quote from: hv_ on December 06, 2018, 06:55:30 PM

LN is nothing new. We know it from old banking / settlement / clearing / netting process.

the only new and proven thing is pure on chain.

Why kicking that ?

-> Some devs want to be better than Satoshi and some miners / exchanges want a lot of different coins.

There is incentive to operate LN nodes though, so it's not just permissioned by banks. Does it look like hub and spoke now? What's wrong with settlement to the blockchain if/when you need?