Quote from: ATMD on December 09, 2018, 02:01:59 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on December 09, 2018, 01:53:38 PM

Quote from: CoinCube on December 09, 2018, 08:46:37 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on December 09, 2018, 03:42:13 AM

BTW, what 'truth' are you talking about? The only truth I know is based on objective facts.

Actually the only truth you know is materialism. The objective facts are in dispute.

Materialists such as yourself are often herded into a form of rationalized self-annihilation that is deeply deeply tied to the corruption of modernity BADecker highlighted in his most recent post.

Here is an article that discusses this downward spiral. The portion on willful self-annihilation is particularly relevant.

Old Left-New Left... Modernity-Postmodernity - surface changes masking a constant deep motivation against God
http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2018/12/old-left-new-left-modernity.html?m=1

What is the 'truth' I am talking about?

For the purposes of this immediate and specific conversation it is the following.

Materialism is false.

Why are to misdirecting the conversation? Who said anything about materialism? I said objective facts. It is not my problem that our reality is material.

The issue was religion and its interference with the progressive thought, its coercive powers etc.

Under the religious rule, we would not be able to have this conversation as I (and you depending on which religious rule we are talking about) would be hanged in the city square.

Be careful what you wish for. Get off your Judeo-Christian horse. It is no different than a Muslim buraq.

In my humble opinion af_newbie, I think that our belief in God is not important as our morality.
An atheist who acts under the moral principles of the Golden Rule ie. following the guidance of love, compassion, etc. creates a better world than a God-believer who kills others and acts cruelly.

In the 21st century, we should not be using 6th century CE or 6th century BCE scriptures to justify our morality. Our morality should come from the humanity that is within us. We should burn ALL scriptures and move on as critical thinking human beings.

Religion is evil at its core. A con business that was set up to exploit the gullible. It does not matter which one, they are all the same.

We don't live in the Bronze Age or in the 6th century. The year is 2018. Earth is not flat, it is billions of years old, nobody created the universe or life on Earth that we know of, life evolved and continues to evolve. Anyone who denies these facts is delusional or simply ignorant.