Quote from: suchmoon on December 13, 2018, 01:46:27 PM

Quote from: cryptohunter on December 13, 2018, 12:56:35 PM

Oh ... you're back. Or here anyway who knows with you and fox pup.

It has taken you like 2 days (in my time anyway) to dream up this response and once again ignore my previous questions. Try answering those first then we can discuss further else it just turns into a one sided debate with you not answering anything but just asking me more and more questions. I'm not asking for anything new I am asking for you to reaffirm your previous statements so I know if there is any chance of a sensible conversation. While you're about it show me the stats/evidence to back those up too since you love stats and have 20 other buddies who are stats experts it will be a trivial task. Then you get to ask me things too.

I have responded to your questions, you just didn't like the answers. And I'm not really asking you anything new so if you don't feel like debating - don't. The question in my previous post was largely a rhetorical one. It's already been established with reasonable certainty that you can't or won't show us the unmerited good posts, which is the only thing that really matters to me in this whole discussion. I take the merit system seriously, you don't.

You have not responded. Let's try for one more time. Yes or No. Not a lot of word salad trying to justify a bunch of excuses from merit/meta circle club.

So Yes or NO

1/Most of all pre merit legends are spammers

2/Is it crazy and idiotic to believe that some of the 99.87% of users can make posts as good if not better than some of the 0.13% of users (the top 200 merited individuals)

For now I will concentrate on suchmoon because I don't want to muddy the waters with excuses from malboroza.

For now try to hold up responding with excuses like well I just like reading merit board where there are basically just my pals, some noobs looking for merit crumbs and people wondering why their accounts are banned for copy and paste . The funny part is TP thought is was a legit and reasonable reply (that you made) and was obviously thinking it looked shady as would any other person looking at it.

The fact you think this kind of bookmarking your favs and showering merit on them as opposed to naturally browsing the board and giving merit to posts you organically fine 100% would exclude you from being a mod. Mods are mean to be totally objective and treat the systems in place in the spirit they were designed. I mean the fact that a host of the top merit sources and holders freely admit they don't venture to the alt boards ( the boards most greatly effect and the greatest need to sort the wheat from the chaff) is in itself makes it obvious not even nearly the same chance exists for a merit on the alt boards as on the meta board.

There is no real need for opinion I have offered all these people a chance to demonstrate their merit is from a broad base of recognition and not one has offered to post their merit scores after passing a simple filter.

I want you to respond with one simple answer malboroza...

What is your earned merit score now and what would be your merit score if we removed the opinions of 0.13% of this board and removed all your meta merit. Let me know that answer because these scores are what none of you care to publish where as you can not contain yourselves posting all other kinds of merit data.

Same goes for suchmoon TP fox loyce and any others arguing in this thread that merit is an accurate representation of post value.

Post your new scores or stop replying. I say you will all lose 80% or greater. Let's see if you lose less than 50% I will be very impressed but I know most will exceed an 80% loss.

I await to here such moons answers and all the other merit cycling clubs scores before they ask any more questions or make any more excuses.

I will wait to hear why you all lose such a huge 80% or great of your merits if just the opinions of 0.13% of users are cast aside and 1 tiny sub board which may have a reasonable amount of posts but I notice there are only a tiny % of regular posters that make the vast majority of the posts here.

So let me just ask this question to you all - suchmoon, loyce , anyone in this thread in a top 50 merited position posting in this thread.

I say some here have their merits reduced by over 90% which is quite hilarious.

Come on enough excuses, I don't have time, these stats are not important, these stats don't show anything, I don't like viewing other boards, I don't like viewing other peoples posts only bookmark my friends post histories, I can safely assume 99.87% of users can't make any good posts, lol

Now read this post and make some answers to the questions. suchmoon is refusing to answer yes or no to 2 simple questions on his previous statements, all are refusing to refute my statement they all lose 80%-90% + of their merits ....

@loyce

Please answer one set of questions before proceeding to the next stage of the conversation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081670.msg48556141#msg48556141

There is no point me even reading your posts if you are not willing to even make an effort to substantiate the claims that you make. I mean make an effort or remain quiet. Suchmoon at least will try sometimes to substantiate his excuses you just vanish for days then think you can come back and make no effort to provide any argument at all for your statements. Of course he wants to forget his rash statements made in anger because he is very emotional and that can cloud his otherwise reasonable and at time valuable contributions. Once he is able to discuss things in a civil way and not take everything to personally he will make a much better poster.

I am happy to remain civil and discuss anything reasonably, but I can not waste time on those that will not make effort to respond to questions or validate their statements.

foxpup is a joker but seems to be able to remain civil.

I don't have an issue with any of you you are not scammers or anything really bad but you are unwilling to accept that your inflated merit scores are easily explained in other terms that are not because you are the most valuable posters. I have seen several times people implying their argument or their value is greater than someone else because of their higher merit score. This is not essentially true. You can not make statements like that.

The fact those the most effected by the removal of the merit club cycling and meta club are here arguing the most is quite telling too.