Quote from: Colargol on August 28, 2011, 10:06:53 PM

Quote from: Sukrim on August 28, 2011, 10:03:29 PM

Oh and "cypherpunk" is an ideology, not a fixed group of people or an asssociation.

Yes!

vs

Quote from: Colargol on August 28, 2011, 09:19:55 PM

isn't it the same group, The Cypherpunks, that are

makes no sense.

Anyway, since you wanted to talk about the wikileaks cable. Did you read it?

Quote

the most common crimes in Pattaya are petty thefts committed by local youths. When it comes to safety for foreigners, there were universal concurrences from our warden, the Thai Rath reporter, and Thai officials that Pattaya is generally safe for tourists, and that all of the police elements are sincere in keeping things orderly.

For comparison: First time I stayed in San Francisco (Marriott next to the Moscone center) the hotel concierge drew a line on the map, touching the hotel location, saying "don't cross this line after dark".

Quote

The opening of Thailand's new Suvarnabhumi airport will also benefit Pattaya, as Thailand's largest international travel hub moves from a location on the opposite side of Bangkok to a location nearest to Pattaya.

Anyways. I have a book suggestion for you. Neuromancer, by Gibson. Cypherpunk (most definitely not a group) was coined much later, but is partly based on that world view.