Quote from: philipma1957 on December 16, 2018, 08:47:18 PM

Quote from: WillJ7 on December 16, 2018, 08:41:29 PM

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Yes actually Id love to see it happen. (Not for me of course) More people are getting burnt the longer this drags on. What they didnt know was this is par for the course in crypto. At some point this isnt alpha tech. FPGA been out many years. As with the software to mine on these Algos. Many things went wrong here. Unproven claims were made and advertised. Do I think they need sued. No. I honestly think this was well intentioned but to those of us that have seen this time and time again well.... I guess its my bad for projecting onto them what I thought they should have known. Next time instead of assuming they have been in this scene for a minute we all should have asked the proper questions. Like Phil said mfurman asked the hard questions. That should have set of many red flags for you folks. A hard lesson learned seems to stick with one the best. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me!

BR

I agree about the 'drama queen' aspect of Crypto. But anyone who has ever done tech support of any kind, and done it well, knows about what a vast time suck technology can present.

However, I fall on the side of "they are well-intentioned," this isn't a scam, but yes it is late. If you want to raise constructive red flags in the future, I think that is a good thing to do. But with so many real scams out there, why go after a project where you suspect the people behind it are well-intentioned? I don't quite follow that. Of all the targets you could pick, why this particular one?

He has spoken about other ones not this just this one.
He has been pretty much anti mining in general for years.

Phil
What Im anti is bullshit. Remember the days of you shilling for bitmain. I kept asking why you kept promoting a company that was extremely harmful to this whole project. Course I was the bad guy for shitting on your way to make a few bucks. This meant more to me than just making a few bucks. (Yea thats a good part of it but truth is far more worth than what this could ever be valued in paper) I have a longing for truth. The way the world works manifested by capitalism make a logical reasonable person go crazy. Maybe thats the point. Sales are easier when the people are ignorant. I did speak out against ASICS for sia. But after realizing this is supposed to be a free market I said hey lets let them have what they want. Now we can all see how that played out. Crypto is like running a company with 1000 bosses all have a brilliant idea of how the company should work. Now lets find consensus. Seriously. I feel like such the fool.

Willj

Well intentioned in the idea of bringing fpga to the smaller guy.(later to find it was all smoke and mirrors) I sure as hell wouldnt dump 5k on a graphics card. Well intentioned in trying to step on the big guys that can dump a million on ASICS gpu fpga etc. some semblance of decentralization. (They wont bother messing with this kids stuff) Like Ive said and Ill say it again. Unequal resources tariffs etc will cause crypto to centralize into the hands of those its thought to defend against. Yes Id expect a reasonable critical thinking society to disregard this as nothing more than a hype ledger;). It duped me too. What bitcoin solves isnt for the masses its for the rich and powerful. Less middle men so that we arent needed. Is that it? Is that the end goal? Robots cant question authority. Remember this folks. Where do you want your future to end up. Something to think about! Whats more logical? Millions having our own personal robot assistants Or millions of robots owned by one? Leaving people hang out to dry What greed does is clouds you to the fact that we do have to share this planet. I suspect within the next twenty years greed will be looked upon with the same disgust as cancer. Of course my idealistic world and those blinded by capitalism have a long way to go before meeting in the middle. Anyway willj. Ill say that was quite the contradictory statement I made. Ill do better next time! Thanks for calling me out. Thats how people make the most significant changes in their life. Being called out for their BS!

BR