Quote from: franky1 on December 16, 2018, 11:38:00 PM

in consensus its simple
if people dont approve they should not leave
they should just not approve of something they do not approve of.

leaving is not a vote. leaving is avoiding a vote thus letting the corrupt automatically get 100% simple because the only ones left to vote are the sheep adoration brigade

Bitcoin is not a democracy. It doesn't have elections. There isn't a "vote", as such. If that's what you want to see in Bitcoin, I assure you you're going to be disappointed, because I've yet to see any software that could make the Bitcoin network function in such a fashion. No one cares what you "approve of" because your words don't mean anything. I don't approve of you being a lying sack of human excrement, but that's not something I can express in code. So it's irrelevant. Run the code you want. Or make new code. Those are your freedoms to do with as you will. Your freedom, however, does not entitle you to tell others what they can code. If you believe it does, you are the authoritarian.

You run the software you like. That software matches you up with other users who agree with you. You then form a network and build a blockchain together.
If you are not compatible with the network, you automatically leave the network and form a new one with other people running code which is compatible with yours.

That's consensus.

You can't unilaterally change the meaning of consensus to "this group of devs can only code this and not propose new ideas and we have to have a vote and everyone needs to agree and blah blah blah standard Franky1 utter dross blah blah", etc. You're a moron and you don't understand the first thing about anything.

You say you don't agree, but you keep running code that makes you compatible with the network you claim you don't agree with. Just in case you're a little slow on the uptake, I'll repeat that point more slowly and give it the appropriate emphasis:

You say you don't agree but WHAT YOU SAY DOESN'T MATTER.

WHAT YOU RUN MATTERS and you're running code that relays transactions on a network that enforces rules you clearly don't agree with.

I'm not saying you should leave, I'm saying you can. I'm suggesting it might serve your cause better than your current methods of lying about "developer control" and the other general shit-stirring you seem to believe is effective. It's clearly not having the desired effect. You're not having any success at changing this network, so the next best option open to you is to build a new network that proves your ideas are viable. But good luck with that, because they aren't viable. At all. Which is probably why you're still here.

I have to ask at this stage... are you a masochist or something? Again, you're free to stick around and keep doing it, but I honestly can't tell what you're getting out of it unless it's some sort of pleasure from pain thing. I mean, you're not blind. You can obviously see the 9000+ nodes running code you absolutely despise. Then you see your pitiful, miniscule, insignificant, handful of nodes running code you like, but it doesn't even touch the sides. You are wholly impotent. And yet, you seem to think your best course of action is to stay on this network and then spend vast quantities of your spare time whining about it like a total pussy because you can't get what you want? Seriously? If you had a hope in hell of getting what you wanted, then sure, stick around and fight for it. But as we've established on numerous occasions, not only is what you want impossible, it's also terrible. The numbers against you are insurmountable. If anything, support for your ideology is diminishing rather than growing. No amount of your insane protests are going to change what is clearly a total failure on your part to present a compelling case. But whatever, stay and keep derailing topics. It's not like you're having any impact other than being a general annoyance.