Quote from: franky1 on December 17, 2018, 02:22:22 AM

all i read is doomad having no clue and just insulting..

typical
may he spend more time researching and less time insulting, he may see what real consensus is, and not the twisted mistaken version taught to him by his buddies.

Ah yes, the inevitable point in the thread where Franky1 thinks telling people to research stuff will somehow make them agree with him. Roll Eyes

Your years spent studying and researching Bitcoin somehow led you to see tyranny. Mine, freedom. I can't even begin to imagine how you think you've learned anything and would be in a position to teach anyone anything when you look at freedom and see tyranny. You see conspiracy where there is none. Your brain isn't wired up right. People could research Bitcoin for the rest of their natural life and still not perceive things the way your special mind does. Why not tell people to research the moon landings being fake? Maybe you can call that a social drama and see if it helps your fruitless cause.

Quote from: franky1 on December 17, 2018, 02:22:22 AM

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Bitcoin is not a democracy any more It doesn't have elections any more. There isn't a "vote", as such any more.

fixed that for you

How can you fix it by saying something that is demonstrably untrue? If you want elections, stick with the corrupt and bought system that still calls itself Democracy, when in practice, it's usually Plutocracy or Kleptocracy instead. Consensus > Voting. Bitcoin has never and will never be a democracy.

Screw your pathetic and antiquated notions of "voting". Voting is centralised. Voting is choosing a puppet to speak for you and then fail to do all the things they promised they would do in their manifesto. Voting is choosing a middleman from a list of worthless middlemen. Voting leads to corruption and lobbying. The real power then stems from the money used to fund the election campaigns. What we have is people freely expressing their will through code without a middleman. We don't need people to speak for us. We don't need to choose middlemen. We aren't susceptible to corruption and simply buying the laws wealthy people want. Why do you want to change what we have into something worse?

Quote from: franky1 on December 17, 2018, 02:22:22 AM

its getting real easy to spot whos bubbies with who because theres the obvious repeat same misguided concepts taught to them by certain people.
one day they will learn about consensus.

You are the misguided one. You say that "up" is actually "down" and then when everyone asks what's wrong with you, you tell them there's a conspiracy to hide the truth from them.

Quote from: franky1 on December 17, 2018, 02:22:22 AM

one major reason i know doomad has no clue about consensus is because he and his chums do not believe in the need of byzantine generals(decentralisation of power). they believe there only needs one general(centralisation), and a bunch of loyal soldiers(distribution). they just have not really grasped the concept of decentralisation.... or maybe its not of commercial interest to them to want bitcoin decentralised anymore, and instead just distributed soldiers of loyalty following one general

Not only do you keep trying to change the meaning of words like "consensus" and "decentralisation", but you keep forgetting about permissionless. You avoid the word like the plague. Probably because it doesn't suit your agenda.

Bitcoin does not have a General. No single person or group is "in charge". But yet you argue that one group is in charge and then expect people to take you seriously? People have eyes. They can see that you are wrong. Just because 9000+ nodes happen to be running software made by one dev team, it does not mean that dev team are now "controlling the network". If that dev team did something users didn't like in their next version, people might not run that software in future.

Quote from: franky1 on December 17, 2018, 02:22:22 AM

one day they will learn about consensus.

You mean "Emergent Consensus", right? That hilarious part where you try to pretend the type of consensus you want to see in Bitcoin just so happens to be the type of consensus that even the people who invented it can't agree on it and don't actually use it. Because it's crap. Cheesy

I've clearly demonstrated my understanding of consensus. All you've demonstrated is that you think consensus means "I can tell this group of developers they shouldn't propose new BIPs and we all have to agree on what code to write before it's even written and consensus is democracy when it isn't and Bitcoin used to have voting when it didn't and let's make up some more complete nonsense and tell people to research it even though it isn't true and forget what punctuation is and remember to mention social drama and blah blah blah typical Franky1 post blah blah kardashians", etc.