Quote from: Saint-loup on December 18, 2018, 12:52:53 PM

If you were french, you'd know that hospitals are not free, you must pay every month a healthcare insurance for that.
University is also not free, fees are low ok but french universities are very low too...

80% of hospital care is paid directly by the sécurité sociale.
If you stay several days at the hospital, yes you have 20 left to pay.

But if you have a chronic disease Sécu pays 100%
If you are pregnant over 5 months, Sécu pays 100%.
If your condition is work related, even if symptoms occured after your retirement or job change, Sécu pays 100%
Infants first month, Sécu pays 100%
You stay longer than 30 days in a row, 31st day and further, you know it, Sécu pays 100%

The way I see it the people are in the street because they want more.
They want more money, they want more free time, and they want more liberty.
But what are they willing to do for it?
I know for a fact difficult jobs are always looking for manpower, and they pay more.
Take a look in big cities in France. Who is doing the garbage collection? Who is cleaning the streets. Most know the answer. These jobs are tough, and pay more.

Of course there will always be examples of social unfairness. No system is perfect. But I think the state is doing a fair job.

The best way this would be constructive would actually to challenge the budget of the government. I didn't see any Gilet Jaune doing anything close to this, proposing anything that would actually make a difference.

Some points are valid tho:

- A more progressive income tax system is a must. In France the highest tax is from 45k NETTO/month. And it implies 45% taxation. To me that level of taxation occurs way too late.
- More direct democracy.
etc

Will continue by quoting previous post