Quote from: suchmoon on December 21, 2018, 01:14:38 AM

Quote from: cryptohunter on December 21, 2018, 12:43:52 AM

1. Do we think there will be that many that apply for this ?

That was my first point. There will be no one applying at the 0.5 BTC price. When a new Copper account costs $10-20 you're basically placing a $2000 penalty on honesty - if someone wants to evade a ban they'll just create a new account, and if someone wants to play by the rules then it's way too expensive. For it to make sense it has to cost about as much as Copper membership give or take a few bucks, if you consider sentimental value vs loss of signature vs ban evasion.

Quote from: cryptohunter on December 21, 2018, 12:43:52 AM

2. The work you do now would be paid in theory ( i know you don't care about that) but others might start helping with financial incentive. This also provides incentive to the mods to escrow and the reporters to keep any eye out for sig ban evaders. I think if anything you will get more people looking for bad guys and watching they stay in line if they are paid from the fees.
3. after the get to go back to normal then they will just get caught again and their usernames will be on the thread prior so go to insta perm ban.

It's still a lot of hassle for zero benefit for most people involved. I'd rather spend that time cleaning out 100 other shitposters than babysitting one ex-convict.

In this system though you would not be doing anything different you would be finding the culprits same as now. Your job in the system does not change you don't need to be the mod or the reporter for people evading sig ban. You still get to go after the other 100 shitsters. The actual only difference for you is you will get a split of the fees. Even if you do not care about that it may encourage others to do like you are doing now for their bit of the fees.

Then mods who already have to make the decision after you report and also supply the reasons etc and listen to the appeal will just shove the fees in a cold wallet and keep ledger. They will get their fees too. and not have to listen to so many appeals.

Then other people who want to spy out for sig evasion to get some fees or even - maybe scripts can be made 3rd party keep an eye on them anyway....but anyone watching them gets a split for finding them..

I agree not a huge amount would want go through this appeals process but i have seen some legends on the appeals offer to pay 0.25 btc for review. People do get attached to their accounts and are certain they are net positive now.

I mean I agree if theymos opens up an option to ban sigs through the forum console that would be even better.

Also those appeals we are seeing here all the time now they will read the appeals process and just think no chance if they are not 100% sure they are net positives.

I mean not many will apply but we are not bothered about saving many only those that are real enthusiasts and it will cut down on appeals also i think. Most are hoping atm we will not find another bunch of their copy and pastes so they try it on claiming yeah 100% i only did it once or whatever but now they wont appeal at all. If it will cost them 0.5btc and no sig for a year then I think they will not be bothering to even appeal. So meta will get drastic drastic reduction in appeals.

I mean another slightly different idea could be

Appeals process is this - want to appeal and say you only made one or less than 1 in 1000 or some ratio - send 1 btc to mod and if no more are found in 3 months time by anyone on the board then money back. If more cases found then money split between original finder and new finder. Of course a smart original finder could find more already....this is now the risk of the copy and paster.

I think that will cut down on people appealing only done it one time or less than 1.1000

perhaps that could be easier.