Quote from: mikeywith on December 24, 2018, 05:43:35 PM

Quote from: cryptohunter on December 24, 2018, 12:48:15 PM

i took the time and effort to try and help you out by giving you a free advice and now you are worried about the merit i got for that post ( for everyone who gave me the merit please remove them now ).

I am not obligated to prove the non-existence of something that you have within your thoughts, it is you who has to prove the opposite.

i did not read the long reply of yours, but I skimmed through some of the points and i see a lot of contradictions.

1- you talk about PAID2POST BUT you are wearing a signature

2- you talk about merit and you are pre-merited too, there a dozen of other members who earned more merits than you and many other legendary members and are still way far from your rank, so should i start a thread demanding all the airdropped merits to be deleted? will you stand at a better position by then? does it even matter?

3- you mention a lot about free speech, and you are getting exactly that, you made a dozen of topics regarding your thoughts, non was deleted ( non that i am aware of) and you pretty much saying everything you want to say. how much more of freedom are you looking for ?

The only valid case that you have( IMO) is the negative trust you got from marlboroza, and i would also agree that marlboroza and suchmoon should not even leave you a neutral trust with such feedback as i strongly believe that trust rating is only meant for trading related subject and nothing else.

so if you would narrow down your list of demands to only that, i will be first to support you as am sure many others will, but as far as the "gang" thing goes i will just have to wish you luck.

First I hope that you did see this part that I wrote...

"I have nothing against you and you sound like a very nice and reasonable individual" - those are not scare quotes either. So this means someone really wrote it and it was myself.

So do not get the impression I am going to pull a full psychotic episode on you and started going full I AM LEGEND CRYPTOHUNTER NOW LEAVING IN MY VERY EXPENSIVE AUTOMOBILE on you (if you don't get why I say this fair enough just ignore that part). This will remain civil as long as others will remain civil to me that is how I always operate unless I am dealing with scammers or people that have tried to do sneaky things to me or have been uncivil with me or tried to damage me in some way. That is how I operate in life. Think of me as a mirror if you like.

I simply want to explore this very very very important topic right now before we make more and more mistake building upon a very flawed system of subjective merit.

I am not trying to deride you for trying to make a post you thought when your wrote it (and may still do ) that it was correct or perhaps it is correct we will see. I simply saying that ANY post that gets merit that is provably NOT correct or is in objection/opposition to a post that provides proven observable fact.. or if a post can not provide any thing of substance to counter the claims made in the post it is replying to can not possibly be given merit.

It is misleading and completely mad to merit a post that is wrong, or has no grounding and is demonstrated to be false over highly likely to be false. I mean how can we merit things someone can demonstrate using reason and logic are in correct or highly highly improbable and even based upon false assumption most of the time.

This part

"I am not obligated to prove the non-existence of something that you have within your thoughts, it is you who has to prove the opposite."

which part of my post is that referring to? If it is the actual gang existence of collusion and corruption then we will shall leave that part until last because although It is a sickening example of what CAN happen I am not as bothered by single instances of something that creating a system where it is IMPOSSIBLE or very difficult for it to happen.

I would like you to read the numbered points that I have made and leave out any of the number you think are not proven or just simple fact that I have already mentioned in my first post. These you will find need to be answered because these are not things I have dreamed up they are an accurate appraisal of how the system functions right now. So answer the ones that are which you consider related to facts only and then we will leave the other ones.

Let me just answer some of you points though because you make some valid ones.

1. MY sig is used to promote Bruno - who I nominated for most cool person on this board. Who won best person on this board. I actually do not even know if his project is going ahead or if I am getting anything at all from leaving it on there or if it was over months ago or if it has started yet. I usually use my sig to push projects that I believe in . I am suggesting ALL persons have their sig removed that would include myself. I do not feel financially motivated to post and never have. I appreciate this board has made me very rich and I do not think we should deride people for wanting to make money but we can not be hypocrites or unfairly suppress other people ...we must give everyone a fair chance to work in a real meritocracy.

2. The merit system can never work unless every post is run through a system which marks it against the same criteria...else there can never be true value attributed to it. I agree airdropped merit is no more representative of real value. I am happy for them all to vanish and have the entire merit system deleted. Merit was and is good for preventing newbie sock puppet spam but I think it has far too many side effects to be net positive right now I 100% think it is net negative and dangerous. One quick fix could be for merit to only count towards rank up until full member that would give full members and above no chance of having their speech controlled by those that control merit. Trust is another thing though that needs tightening up in a big way. Neg trust should be based either on something related to scamming in a financial way or there must be a cast iron case and super strong case for suggesting a warning of trading with them is dangerous to their finances. Otherwise instant removal from DT list. Trust scores need to mean something for trading with them. Nobody wants to read 1000 pages of negative trust because they don't wish to eat LEMONS.

3. Free speech has been EXCELLENT and a real credit to this board and the mods. I am fighting although you may not yet realise it for exactly that. The mods and theymos may stay the same but you can not allow a new layer of control slide in between the users and the admin. That is exactly what I am telling you has happened here already. The influence is impossible to deny

1. motivation to align and agree with or not speak up to those with merit givers to earn merit - merit controls rank controls your ability to earn
2. motivation to align and agree with or not speak up to those DT members to NOT get red trust. - trading and again sig campaigns

these are not really debatable to be fair they are undeniable ....

I use the word motivation to be nice and no sound dramatic but actually these control systems put fear into people and crush their free speech.

It was not until I was told by some members they would like to support me but "dare not" worry about reprisals that will stop them trading or stop them getting on sig campaigns that I realised that even a legend can be worried by these "system controllers".

I had presumed (because I never examined the board and how it works ) LEGENDS could go no higher and therefore only answered to admin. I had not studied this until I heard about LEGENDS being scared to speak out. When I realised that sig campaigns will not allow RED TRUST even from a LEGEND and also I had not considered the trading side of it either that having red trust will be bad if you trade here.

I hope you can see this is not called a conspiracy this is called pure observable fact. To try to deny this is either a lack of understanding or you have some other piece of information that you can reveal that undoes what I say. I will welcome this.

Please understand that I am not saying I want the merit removed from your post because I don't want you to have merit. Honestly if Theymos can give you my merit (all of it) but I retain my rank I request it happens now. I have no care for merit.

Why I said it should be removed is the same reason merit should never be allowed to remain on a post that is incorrect or in opposition to a post that is provably correct (same thing i guess)

Nothing personal against you and you seem like a normal nice person who talks to people with respect and you will always get the very same thing back from me.

My crazy pisstaking and ranting only happens to people that do unfair or cowardly backstabbing to me or speak to me poorly and call me an idiot when I am clearly speaking the truth.

I have no desire at all to abuse or deride or talk down or put down or point out their bad points to innocent and nice people. I am constantly helping people on here and in life all the time that are nothing to do with me. I do it because.... well why not if you can.

As I said I want a civil debate with respect to anyone who respects me. ( I don't include anyone who has tried to fuck me before in that category once you try to fuck someone over and collude to shut them down for nothing other than revealing the truth )