Quote from: bitcoin2cash on August 30, 2011, 03:43:20 PM

Quote from: Hawker on August 30, 2011, 03:34:53 PM

Its silly to say that a free society must be rejected because it is free to be wrong. Freedom only exists where you can do stupid or wrong things.

You're clearly grasping at straws. I can be free without having the freedom to enslave you.

Quote from: Hawker on August 30, 2011, 03:34:53 PM

You are part of society so its not possible to reject it.

I reject your beliefs about society.

Quote from: Hawker on August 30, 2011, 03:34:53 PM

But you have to start from the reality that society exists and that it can legitimately try to improve life for its members.

That's a non sequitur. Society is nothing more than the humans that comprise it. Humans obviously exist. However, I don't have to accept anything about its legitimacy.

Three people are on an island. Two of them vote to rob the third. That's wrong. It doesn't matter if its 3 or 30 million to 1.

So you don't accept the right of people to govern their own society. Then why argue your point? You don't need to convince anyone as no-one has the right to self government.