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Re: DefaultTrust changes
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bill gator
on 14/01/2019, 20:42:05 UTC
You're taking this way too personally.

I haven't taken anything personally. I haven't excluded those that have excluded me, because I am hoping, not expecting, that they will be willing to explain themselves. If I agree with their reasoning, then I can better myself or be accountable for where they see shortcomings. If I disagree with their reasoning or lack thereof, then I can place them as an exclusion and we both go on our way.

Someone might think that you just need more time or something.

I am not concerned about my personal situation; I am discussing principles and concepts. My situation was just an example of exclusions and to discuss "retaliatory" or frivolous exclusions.

Just imagine this from the logistics perspective - are you going to troll the whole list every day to check if someone excluded you without explanation so that you could counter-exclude them?

This is why the original premise was that I felt wronged by a friend. I would have never known either of these users had excluded me, if I hadn't added them already to my own list. Only to feel confused when I clearly misunderstood our relationship. I'm not hunting for exclusions, but speaking from the context of someone turning on a dime without explanation and seemingly ignoring the situation.


Absence of explanation is not absence of reason.

I understand and mentioned exactly that. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming they have a good reason for excluding me. I cannot carry this assumption forever without justification, however.

Perhaps they didn't want to contact you to avoid this exact drama. I've never been contacted by anyone who excluded me nor would I contact any of my exclusions and I don't have any expectations in that regard. I don't think there is a general expectation in the community either.

I'm not looking for drama. I sent them a discrete PM asking for an explanation, never got an explanation and still don't expect one. Again though, without an explanation I see that exclusion as something I vehemently disagree with and see no reason for. It makes me trust their inclusions, exclusions and even ratings less; as this gives me the impression they are willing to be flippant with them.

You're free to do what you want with your list but what you're describing sounds like some cringy and unnecessary quid pro quo.

I'll pose the same question to you as I did to Lauda, then. Will another's opinion of yourself have any influence on your opinion of that individual?

I'm not exactly sure what about that is cringe or unnecessary. I cannot just assume that an unexplained exclusion is justified, especially when I am involved and it is against me. That would be self-defeating and foolish, that circular logic would be the definition of submission. If you explain why you dislike or distrust me, then I am able to assess that information to either implement or contend that information. Without that I am taking guesses and seems foolish to bow my head while I get kicked.

Regardless, I haven't added any "retaliatory" exclusions; simply removed them from my inclusions for now.