Quote from: suchmoon on January 14, 2019, 08:26:55 PM

You're taking this way too personally.

I haven't taken anything personally. I haven't excluded those that have excluded me, because I am hoping, not expecting, that they will be willing to explain themselves. If I agree with their reasoning, then I can better myself or be accountable for where they see shortcomings. If I disagree with their reasoning or lack thereof, then I can place them as an exclusion and we both go on our way.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 14, 2019, 08:26:55 PM

Someone might think that you just need more time or something.

I am not concerned about my personal situation; I am discussing principles and concepts. My situation was just an example of exclusions and to discuss "retaliatory" or frivolous exclusions.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 14, 2019, 08:26:55 PM

Just imagine this from the logistics perspective - are you going to troll the whole list every day to check if someone excluded you without explanation so that you could counter-exclude them?

This is why the original premise was that I felt wronged by a friend. I would have never known either of these users had excluded me, if I hadn't added them already to my own list. Only to feel confused when I clearly misunderstood our relationship. I'm not hunting for exclusions, but speaking from the context of someone turning on a dime without explanation and seemingly ignoring the situation.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 14, 2019, 08:26:55 PM

Absence of explanation is not absence of reason.

I understand and mentioned exactly that. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming they have a good reason for excluding me. I cannot carry this assumption forever without justification, however.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 14, 2019, 08:26:55 PM

Perhaps they didn't want to contact you to avoid this exact drama. I've never been contacted by anyone who excluded me nor would I contact any of my exclusions and I don't have any expectations in that regard. I don't think there is a general expectation in the community either.

I'm not looking for drama. I sent them a discrete PM asking for an explanation, never got an explanation and still don't expect one. Again though, without an explanation I see that exclusion as something I vehemently disagree with and see no reason for. It makes me trust their inclusions, exclusions and even ratings less; as this gives me the impression they are willing to be flippant with them.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 14, 2019, 08:26:55 PM

You're free to do what you want with your list but what you're describing sounds like some cringy and unnecessary quid pro quo.

I'll pose the same question to you as I did to Lauda, then. Will another's opinion of yourself have any influence on your opinion of that individual?

I'm not exactly sure what about that is cringe or unnecessary. I cannot just assume that an unexplained exclusion is justified, especially when I am involved and it is against me. That would be self-defeating and foolish, that circular logic would be the definition of submission. If you explain why you dislike or distrust me, then I am able to assess that information to either implement or contend that information. Without that I am taking guesses and seems foolish to bow my head while I get kicked.

Regardless, I haven't added any "retaliatory" exclusions; simply removed them from my inclusions for now.