Quote from: ATMD on January 16, 2019, 02:21:42 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 16, 2019, 02:15:51 PM

Quote from: ATMD on January 16, 2019, 01:58:16 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 16, 2019, 01:55:42 PM

Yeah, no.. God from the bible is clearly defined as 1 being, perhaps 3 but not 100 or 1000. A very advanced alien race outside the universe could have created it and no, that's not god, sorry.

Exactly, but the God of the bible is a monotheistic view of God. Many theists do not believe in the God of the bible.

I understand but it doesn't have to be a ''god''. There are thousands of different gods, the other option is simply super advanced civilizations that created the universe without being omnipotent etc etc.

True mate.

It comes down to this, are these aliens uncreated? ie always exist, eternal?

God is uncreated by definition. God always exist. If these aliens had a point of origin then they are not God.

The reason why I described them as God earlier was because of the this statement.
"If those aliens create the universe and exist outside of space and time, then they are by definition, God"

Something(s) that create this world and exist outside of space and time must logically be independent of time, ie eternal.

Yes and mr super creator that I just invented is now by definition the creator of the universe, therefore mr super creator is the creator of the universe. You see any flaws with that argument?