Quote from: m0gliE on January 17, 2019, 09:09:01 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on January 17, 2019, 01:19:07 AM

My hope is that one day I piss you off enough that you open up a book to prove me wrong.

Impossible. Nobody can prove you wrong. On 3 or 4 years on the forum I've never seen you admit being wrong even once.

So only two possibilities:
-Either you're a motherfucking genius and we're all completely stupid to miss out how brillant your reasonnings are
-Or you're a dumb asshole who doesn't discuss or debate but like to use logical fallacies and fluctuant values to avoid any factual debate

Chose which is most likely.

Quote from: Spendulus on January 17, 2019, 12:02:39 AM

Well, there's no need to be trading insults on Chomsky. We can simply agree he is the intellectual modern voice of socialist/communist thought and practice. Yet another one of those creatures that love to live with the benefits of the USA, while criticizing it non stop.

You do find liberals don't know who or what Chomsky is. But so? Neither have they read Adam Smith, or Ayn Rand. Liberals should learn the roots of their mistaken beliefs. But they should also pick up some Rush Limbaugh so as to be informed on ACTUAL modern conservative thought. Read Lenin, you'll immediately reject it as the most boring trash you ever picked up.

Manufacturing Consent is okay for this subject which really is that of "manufacturing consent." Briefly Chomsky does not think things work "right" unless there is a ruling elite behind the scenes shaping and directing "progress." He considers the great mass of people "stupid."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrBQEAM3rE

If I was back playing around in college it'd be great fun to do a class comparing and contrasting these two schools of thought. But that would NEVER BE ALLOWED TODAY, would it?

And to understand why socialism has that totalitarian, narrow view, well you just have to go to the roots of that brain virus...

I'm not a liberal. Not at all.

I've read Adam Smith, it's the equivalent of Socrate's science books. Interesting considering the date it was written but obvious bullshit from beginning to the end.

Never even heard of this "Rush Limbaugh" though. Will come back to you if Manufacturing consent was worth it.

And no ones give a shit about Lenin... He was just a leader that's all. Marx is the important one, and Das Kapital is the best example of how brillant he was (and the proof that he was a horrible writter because the only thing I've read which is written worse than Das Kapital is probably Mein Kampf xD)

Thanks for the advice on the book. Have ordered it and will update you once I've finished it.

Or option 3, you are exceptionally ignorant. You will notice not everyone debates with me. I am sure a lot of people disagree with me. The difference between you and them is they will admit their own ignorance and not pretend to know more, even if they don't like what I have to say. Also I usually don't bother taking up debates about subjects I know nothing about, so I could see how you would think I am a supergenius as a result Wink

For you though, in your mind the fact that you disagree is equivalent to knowing what you are talking about, and should be given equal measure, just because you suck up air or something.