Quote from: xenon131 on January 20, 2019, 11:42:05 AM

Quote from: xtraelv on January 20, 2019, 10:40:43 AM

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Feedback doesn't show on the local boards currently..

discussion on this matter has already started, #193 and all below

Quote from: xtraelv on January 20, 2019, 10:40:43 AM

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eliminating the current members on DT and setting your own list would just result in previously tagged scammers and spammers not showing up with any feedback in the English section of the forum. Are you going to go through the thousands of valid feedback to tag all those under your own system ?
You won't have the benefit of valid warnings.

This needs some cool heads and good negotiators.

Well, then, I know u have, but why Lauda, TMAN, suchmoon and so on don't have DefaultTrust entry and adjusted their DT0 to their needs? Is that their heads are not cool?

I have always found Suchmoon to be reasonable and approachable. When I spoke to Suchmoon recently indicated a very different view than before.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2019, 02:07:20 AM

A simple way forward is to support the "good guys" and there are plenty of those in the Russian community. Support may be as simple as not excluding/red-trusting the good guys or countering existing exclusions/red trust. If you're not sure - and unless you speak passable Russian or have MANY HOURS to spend with multiple translation tools and talk to English-speaking Russians then you can't be sure - please simply take yourself out of the debate and don't act with exclusions or red trust. I have contacted numerous users over the last couple of days trying to explain this simple concept but it is unsurprisingly very difficult to do so when the debate is being fueled by emotions or perhaps even malice.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2019, 03:24:21 AM

Quote from: actmyname on January 20, 2019, 03:00:20 AM

the community is indignant

I believe this is way too broad. If you have some basis for this I'd like to know. I have a different opinion after spending some time on the Russian board over the last few days. There is certainly some resentment about some of the recent actions targeting Russian members, which is why I believe it would make sense to reverse or counter-act them. That could get a reasonable conversation started.

We can't and won't get everyone to love us. They have their own Quicksellers. But we need to be reasonably consistent at the very least. Talking about DT inclusions/exclusions is not a crime over here and it should be a crime when it's done over there. Same with being misguided/misinformed/mistaken - there are many Russian users who'd be happy to learn but sadly we're paying attention to loudmouths for obvious reasons.

I don't know TMAN and Lauda well. I believe they tend to be a bit feisty but they have also tagged hundreds of scams. In this case I believe they have made a mistake - but that is my opinion.

Some of it I covered here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099822.msg49327580#msg49327580

There is also a thread about it over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099774.msg49328469#msg49328469

I'd like to think this can be de-escalated and constructive discussion to take place with the view of a satisfactory resolution. I understand that some people have been insulted by what has occurred but I would like people to concentrate on a resolution rather than a confrontation.