Quote from: Coolcryptovator on January 20, 2019, 05:11:16 AM

If I am not wrong, problem started from Alex_Sr. He was added by TMAN, but unfortunately Alex_Sr left few positive feedback. I didn't knew Alex_Sr before added on DT. Then someone mentioned about his feedback's on meta thread and TMAN remove him. Then he revised his feedback's and TMAN was re-add him but some other DT1 exclude him. Then TMAN made few investigation and he found thread on Russian board. Eventually TMAN also exclude Alex_Sr and opened a tread regarding Russian board abuse.

If it started with Alex_Sr, that means I caused "war with Russia":

Quote from: LoyceV on January 16, 2019, 06:44:31 PM

It feels like DT has much more inflation that Bitcoin at the moment. Take Alex_Sr's Sent feedback for example: he started sending green trust the moment he was on put on DT. Look at his feedback on DabLjat:

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Expert on trust issues and active user!

Let me focus on the last 2 words: "active user". The account is 7 months young, has 104 posts, and (who would have thought!) he too started dropping green and red trust the same day!

I've been away since I was put on DT1, and I have a lot of reading to do to catch up, but my first impression is that there's already ~~a circle jerk~~ even more controversy when certain accounts suddenly leave each other trust and add each other to their trust list. And just like the hostile takeover I described, a dozen users can easily add all of them on DT, and turn all of them to +110 (after 10 months).

After this post, Alex_Sr was quickly excluded by a few users, and currently has an equal number of inclusions and exclusions, which means he's back on DT2 already.

I explained my reasoning here:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 17, 2019, 06:22:49 PM

Quote from: Alex_Sr on January 17, 2019, 05:30:24 AM

If leaving such feedback is a problem-tell me: "Bro is a problem!" and I will not leave such feedback!

As I wrote earlier I am still very inexperienced in matters of trust, but I'm learning fast

First: it's nothing personal. I've seen good posts from you, and although there's nothing wrong with being inexperienced when it comes to trust, I don't think you should have your first trial run when you're on DT.

It's not about sending you a PM, which indeed I could have done. You should be able to stand strong when you leave feedback. If you're wrong occasionally, it is of course good to change it when needed, but the majority of your feedback should hold strong. That also means you shouldn't just delete them the moment someone disagrees, you should be able to back it up. And if you can't, that means you shouldn't have left the feedback in the first place.

Deleting the ~dozen positive feedbacks you've left shows you're willing to learn and improve, but it also shows you couldn't make the right decision on your own.

And here:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 17, 2019, 11:15:02 AM

Reference post: Why have I excluded members on my trust list?
~Alex_Sr
Right after being on DT2, he left positive trust to the many users he seems to like, and deleted it after being excluded. Apparently being on DT is more important than leaving accurate ratings. He is "still very inexperienced in matters of trust".
Reminder for myself: review this one somewhere in the future (weeks/months)

A week ago, Alex_Sr has included these users:

Code:

Alex_Sr->theymos
Alex_Sr->Vod
Alex_Sr->hilariousandco
Alex_Sr->suchmoon
Alex_Sr->xandry
Alex_Sr->hilariousetc
Alex_Sr->LoyceV
Alex_Sr->The Pharmacist
Alex_Sr->krogothmanhattan
Alex_Sr->DdmrDdmr
Alex_Sr->Nikisa

Yesterday, he included nobody. My guess/hope is that this means he's re-evaluating his stance on DT, and I'm curious to see the result.

Thanks for trying to mediate suchmoon!

In case there is any doubt: I have nothing against Russians, and all Russians I've met are nice people.

What scares me for the future of DT, is that Alex_Sr was only an example, which I found by coincidence looking into a small fraction of DT. I still haven't had the time to do a much more in-depth analysis of DT, but I kinda expect many more cases like this in the future.