Quote from: kjj on September 01, 2011, 11:41:56 AM

Quote from: GideonGono on September 01, 2011, 10:37:06 AM

Quote from: kjj on August 31, 2011, 03:11:51 PM

Quote from: Sjalq on August 31, 2011, 12:59:21 PM

The non-aggression principle can be applied or ignored by both atheists and religious people. There is no monopoly on rationality and life is simply to complex to claim that you are rational on all fronts. Remember one of the least rational and most destructive systems ever was sold as "rational" and run by atheists, unless I've just misread this whole thing about the soviets and they were all closet Catholics.

Currently the truest and most consistent libertarian with any political power is a Christian named Ron Paul.

The problem that I see with most secularists is that they don't see that secularism is just as much a religion as any other.

And I find individual fundamentalist secularists to be at least as annoying as fundamentalist christians or muslims or jews, maybe a bit more. In aggregate though, they are much worse because it is apparently socially acceptable to loudly display secularism as a status marker in bars.

Let me get this straight. So everything is a religion? There is no atheism? Gimme a break!

You've never met anyone that had serious faith in their atheism?

No, I see how you may find this hard to understand, but atheism is the opposite of faith. I don't have faith in atheism at all. All I need is one simple proof of the existence of the supernatural, that would stand up to the most modest form of impartial scrutiny, and I'm sold. No such proof has ever been produced, though.

Atheism is not the assertion that there is no god. It is the idea that a deity of some kind is not necessary to explain the universe around us, and that the introduction of the deity makes it far more difficult to explain it. Same reason I (and presumably you) don't believe in fairies, djinns, bad ju-ju spirits or the Pachamama.