Quote from: MilkyWayMasta on February 04, 2014, 10:06:15 PM

Quote from: coinfresh on February 04, 2014, 10:03:23 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on February 04, 2014, 08:23:28 PM

No, I am not willfully withholding shareholder access to their shares to have unimpeded access to the market. I am liquidating the shares due to the above reasons.

Ken, you gotta be upfront with us. Are you waiting to put shareholder shares up until ukyo's shares have been liquidated? This is something that you should state out in the open.

Quote from: kslaughter on February 04, 2014, 08:05:25 PM

Quote from: shaofis on February 04, 2014, 12:24:22 PM

Let's not forget normal action for Ken would be to sue Ukyo for the money owed and Ukyo has already stated that if anyone were to sue him he'd just declare bankruptcy and that no one would get paid.

Ken has no obligation to Ukyo's debts and only has obligation to his shareholders regarding this transaction.

That said; I don't think anyone really has issue with the price... the real issue is that Ken has started trading shares before he's returned access to our own. If we were open trading right now the market would set that price not Ken. We should have resumed normal trading before Ken dumped those shares; you can make what ever excuse you want about it... it just is wrong to do it this way.

You made the point that Ukyo could declare bankruptcy. This is why we have to have a fire sale at this time. Should Ukyo declare bankruptcy, the court would put a stay on selling any of his assets, and Active Mining would be stuck until the court confirmed that our lien on the shares comes before other debtors.
So, this is the reason for putting up the shares at this time ahead of other shareholders being allowed to trade.

What ken is saying is "this is why we couldn't wait to list these shares"
What ken isn't saying is "we are purposely holding back everyone elses ability to trade so we can sell ukyo's shares"