Quote from: Lauda on March 05, 2020, 05:27:55 AM

Quote from: Vod on March 04, 2020, 07:53:18 PM

I can see dumping an entire PM chain to defend oneself - I don't think a person would be guilty of a moral crime.

It is funny really. Had I played along, and one of Russians published MY PM chain (this very chain, just modified) it would be applauded for. This is why I criticize everyone left and right. Either apply uniformly or do not apply anything at all.

Why, what an idea: Actual objective standards!

On Ethics and Judgment

Quote from: suchmoon on March 04, 2020, 09:29:57 PM

Sure it's not a "crime" here to publish a PM but doing so, especially for no real reason, sends a message (pun intended) about one's judgement and ethics.

suchmoon, yes, lets talk about ethics and judgment.

To reach this point requires a delicate dance:

Quote from: nullius on March 04, 2020, 09:05:28 PM

...is superlatively trustworthy... I will personally vouch...

Without saying too much, I will give the general outline: It starts with a casual exchange of some PMs that, for my part, could cause me some extra headaches or minor embarrassment if revealed by the other party. It then proceeds to encrypted communications, where perhaps I may begin to discuss matters that I would never mention in a Personal Message which is readily accessible to Cloudflare/NSA, forum admins and high-ranking staff, e-mail providers who my handle any e-mailed copies of PMs, the forums server providers, said e-mail providers server providers, any blackhats who can compromise the forums huge, creaky pile of PHP code...

:-/

This doesnt mean that I chat about anything too interesting via encrypted communiations, with Lauda or otherwise; I am not involved in anything too interesting, anyway. What it does mean is that I can talk about things that I simply refuse to broadcast before the unseen all-seeing eyes of numerous known and unknown persons. To get to know someones character on a level where I would say, I trust this person!, it is necessary to be able to speak at least a little bit freely, in private.

(Obviously, it is best to start with encrypted communications; but for reasons that baffle me, applied cryptography is mostly unpopular on a crypto forum devoted to Satoshis cypherpunk money.)

I had high hopes for you, suchmoon. But you never even got far enough with me that I felt I really needed to push the issue of using encryption. Based on your public demands that Lauda violate my confidences and criticisms of her for her refusal to do so, such as you have even repeated in this thread, I would never trust you with confidential information. So as for ethics and judgment.

And as for Laudas...

Browbeating a Dead Horse

Quote from: suchmoon on March 04, 2020, 09:29:57 PM

Browbeat? You used to know what words mean.

Rather than direct attention to my use of the word browbeat, why dont you give the class a lesson on reading comprehension.^* Ascertain the substance of the PMs that Lauda published, in-context and in the totality of the circumstances. Then, for extra credit, make a short list of colloquial English words that would suitably describe this type of interrogation, argumentativeness, and accusations of manipulations of other people's opinions from a person who has previously done one of those conspiracy theory threads that you usually oh so dearly love.

(* Protip: This sentence concludes with a period, because it is not actually interrogative: It is a rhetorical question which pointedly omits the question mark.)

Indeed, in this case, the only evidence of your opinion is that at the time, you thought that madnessteats prior thread was frivolous:

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on January 27, 2019, 10:19:17 AM

I do not see any reason for you to open a thread here why somebody included/excluded me/or I am in nobody list. Everybody have their personal preference to include or exclude.

PS: Just curios to know what was your prior contribution to this system before this new system is announced.

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=r1s2g3

1/27/2019 2:47:33 PM

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Re: Why did you add me to your DT0 with ~

Now, look at this from Laudas position: Suppose that someone created a thread against you a year ago based on your trust list, and is now repeatedly PMing you about same and accusing you of doing something wrong with it. Please describe that situation carefully: If you approve of madnessteats behaviour, then your own critics may forseeably take that as an invitation.

Quote from: nullius on March 04, 2020, 09:05:28 PM

The evidence as such speaks for itself; I neednt write a thousand-word essay thereupon.

Oops; I tried. Well, I kept it under a thousand words. Excluding quotations, etc., it amounts to less than a fifth of that!