Quote from: diyhockey on January 29, 2019, 12:26:01 PM

You talk about the price. Of course, the price of most coins is rising in a bull market. There is no need to be an expert, create a portfolio of shit at random, divide the deposit into parts and buy all the deeps, a year, two, three, up to zero prices it does not matter. You will either lose if you was the last fool or win if you will see another bull.
I meant adoption, the only logical explanation for the existence of cryptocurrency. Obyte saw all types of markets and was not adopted on any of them. There is no reason why this story will not happen again if we will see another bull cycle. It is for this reason that I believe that the point is not in market cycles, but in the absence of network effects. After all Obyte lost community on the bull market.

What? Where did I even mentioned the price before? Bear market is not only about price. Let me explain it to you again.

People leave cryptocurrencies during bear market. Bitcoin was losing adoption even during bull market because Lightning was not available and fees were high. For example, Steam was one of those stopped accepting Bitcoins during bull-market, that was on Dec 6, 2017. Bear market started in mid-January 2018.

Obyte also had more adoption during bull-market, some of the bot operators stopped running mid-2018 (some of their code was bought and open-sourced for others to run).
Obyte didn't lose community during bull-market, it lost most when Bitcoin moondrop was cancelled, which was in February 2018, month after the bear market started.

It's all about the market cycles. Those who are wise enough, prepare for next bull-market by building, others just whine how bad everything is. Ethereum was built when everybody lost interest in cryptocurrencies after Mt.Gox and Silk Road, lot of people though that Bitcoin was done then, just like lot of people think now. Binance was built also before bull-market, now they are biggest. They would not be biggest if they started building during bull-market.

Quote from: tarmo888 on January 27, 2019, 08:59:52 PM

What's the other one besides Bitcoin? Ripple, Ethereum, Litecoin or Dogecoin? These are one of the oldest coins out there, so it is not surprising that they have more network effect.
Did Bitcoin foundation made all those deals that Bitcoin is more accepted than others? No. Obviously the communities are decreasing during the bear market, there was lot of companies who accepted Bitcoin too before the fees went nuts, they discontinued accepting Bitcoin. Many haven't still returned even that fees have gone down and Lightning has become available, many still don't even use native-SegWit (P2WPKH) or pay-to-script-hash (P2SH), but old pay-to-pubkey-hash (P2PKH), which takes longer to be confirmed (I could be wrong about that, but SegWit transactions should be possible to validate faster).
Cryptocurrency companies are not like regular companies where partnerships only happen when deals are made. Cryptocurrencies are open-source, so everybody can become a merchant, you don't need to ask permision for that. If you like the old adoptions-by-deals approach then maybe Ripple is your kind of coin.
Now, during the bear market, it is time to build all those intergrations and those who are ready for next bull-run, benefit from that more.