Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 29, 2019, 09:41:04 PM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on January 29, 2019, 06:52:21 PM

Wow... what brings you this way stranger?

Smoothie's new coins, tbh. Cool

But how about an overdue rant too?
Roll Eyes

I see Bitcoin maximalist supremacist monopolists conveniently ignoring the fact they failed in previous attempts to enforce upon reasonable people false claims to the exclusive title of "Maximalist" many years ago, under the atrocious thought leadership of cypherdoc & other victims of (a viciously Dunning-Krueger-compounded) Peter_R Principle.

These Eternal September perma-noobs would like to forget he was the original "maximalist supremacist monopolist" crank (I created the bespoke term especially for frappe.doc like a Savlle Row tailor creates a custom suit).

It's beyond ridiculous certain self-appointed baguette-munching "Bitcoin Ambassadors" don't even grasp the basics of their ostensible field of expertise's culture (ie history) and linguistics (ie vocabulary).

They make hilariously ignorant grunts accusing coblee and fluffy of trying to "redefine language to try and paint people calling out scams as extremists!"

That, despite the Maximalist vs Monopolist distinction being well defined and established years before Bcash was a glimmer reflected from Roger to Jihan's bedroom eyes.

This isn't hard and the salty supremacists are only pretending it's hard for the exact same reasons the Bcash people pretend it's a hard call whether or not to award the Bitcoin brand/socioeconomic majority/ticker to the original defending chain or this year's controversial attacking hard fork.

Even smug muggles like Akin Fernandez, Pierre Rochard, and Francis Pouliot can easily (if they would only try) to understand the basic English written here:

Quote from: https://coinspice.io/news/btc-supremacists-are-not-bitcoin-maximalists/

Op-ed: BTC Supremacists are not Bitcoin Maximalists
By Mike - September 24, 2018

I would like to differentiate the original notion of Bitcoin Maximalism with the extreme BTC Supremacy currently popular within the r/Bitcoin/Blockstream/Bitcoin Core/Magical Crypto Friends wing of the Bitcoin community. The purpose of this piece will be to emphasize the positive aspects of Bitcoin Maximalism while polemicizing the wretched tendencies of BTC Supremacy.

I propose that all derogatory mentions of Bitcoin Maximalist are actually descriptions of what is better understood as a BTC Supremacist. We must make this distinction clear and well-known. BTC Supremacists are the only ones who say that Bitcoin is not a great form of money, that BTC is not for people who earn less than $2 a day, that you should just use fiat to collect credit card points.

BTC Supremacy holds that only the blockchain currently designated by the ticker symbol BTC can possibly represent any idea of Bitcoin. No other blockchain, not even forks with the same UTXO history, can possibly participate in any conversation about Bitcoin. To suggest otherwise earns you the title, known scammer. Accordingly, the will of the sole BTC development team, Bitcoin Core, reigns supreme. Dissenters are censored and cast out of Bitcoin communities by BTC Supremacists. Heretics are blocked on social media by BTC Supremacists.

Yes, I can confirm @BEAUTYON_ 100% DEFINITELY BLOCKS FOR DISAGREEMENT B/C HE'S A SNIGGERING COWARD AFRAID TO BE PROVEN WRONG IN PUBLIC.

Let's also recall the (pathological) maximalist supremacist monopolist mindset originated from within the toxic fever swamps of Mircea Posescu's cult of personality, the long-defunct Republic of La Serenissima.

It's funny the same maximalist supremacist monopolist gang of Mircea's ass-kissing passengers are still hanging out together, smoking fags on their e-stoop and shouting crapulent, witless things at any pedestrian Mere-Maximalist unfortunate enough to be in their disreputable proximity.

It's not like Coinspice Mike's ideas are new, radical, or even untested.

Anyone with memory function superior to Akin/Pierre/Francis' Axis of Trilemmings can easily use the board's search function to research the history of maximalist vs monopolist evolution.

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on February 13, 2018, 11:58:58 PM

It's good for Monero that Litecoin is helping us break up the Bitcoin/Ethereum duopoly. Once a market relents from its Bitcoin maximalist supremacist monopolist (or 'Muh Flippening') paradigm there is no more protectionism and every coin must compete for users based on its own merits. That means cheap tx fees, quick confirms, low withdrawals fees, and extra features such as privacy.

And now (as predicted) we see every coin competing for users based on its own cheap/quick/private merits. (I know, I know. The horror! Don't they realize Bitcoin is ENTITLED to be the ONLY BLOCKCHAIN EVAR??1?)

Yes, this is on topic. Here's why:

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on March 18, 2016, 08:59:36 PM

Quote from: Melbustus on March 18, 2016, 03:01:42 PM

Bitcoin is meaningfully handing key use-cases to alts. Core's roadmap that clearly has no regard for keeping on-chain fees as cheap as possible for as long as possible, is opening the door for alts to satisfy the demand for secure & cheap transactions. Further, Core stonewalling the community, and stagnating development that's actually meaningful to users is scary.

Thus, the key thesis that Bitcoin can and will adapt when necessary, and/or adopt innovations from alt-coins (adaptive blocksize anyone?) when it's clearly advantageous to do so, is now empirically in question.

So you can count me as one of the people who's been staunchly Bitcoiin-maximalist for *years*, but is now questioning Bitcoin's direction in a fundamental way that I have not before. There hasn't been an event in Bitcoin, until now, which threatens to fundamentally change Bitcoin's longterm vision and key value. So it's pretty darn reasonable for people to start looking elsewhere. I personally haven't converted any cold-storage BTC to alts, but as you note, I'm seeing long-time Bitcoiners do so (or at least talk about it) for the first time. Core and supporters may want to take notice before the reality that Bitcoin is not operating in a competition-free vacuum hits them in the face. There's still time to fix this. But not much.

I am a Maximalist ('BTC's Holy Ledger is the Mother of All Blockchains and Father of All Settlement Networks'), but not a Maximalist Monopolist Supremacist ('only BTC should exist; all alts are scams Because Natural Monopoly and Reasons').

Like smoothie and many others, I've been advocating/predicting Nash equilibrium among Bitcoin and the (legitimate) alts since Litecoin was created.

Nothing fundamental in Bitcoin has changed; it still works almost perfectly.

The world adapts to Honey Badger; he does not jump through the latest trendy software hoop every time some Panicky Penelopes feel like wetting their pants over losing use cases (marginal or otherwise) to altcoins.

Control variables like blocksize, which effect the economics and decentralization of e-cash/crypto experiments, are not going to be changed for no good reason. We'll have segwit ASAP, so let's calm down and avoid having a Hearnia. Wink

The proper way to expand the experimental search of e-cash state space is by creating parallel experiments with adjusted parameters. It's best to have Bitcoin follow through on its commitment to limited/fixed blocks, while Monero tries a different approach with dynamic blocks.

Bolting onto Bitcoin the latest shiny new altcoin thing only concentrates risk and reduces diversity of options available to users.

One more before I drop the blade.

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on July 15, 2015, 03:16:41 PM

Quote from: fat buddah on February 01, 2015, 02:03:35 AM

Bitcoin is Gavincoin soon and it will be inaccessible for every day people. Bitcoin fears and hates all altcoins.

Litecoin has a bright future. Everyday people will use altcoins like Litecoin, Dogecoin and others. Not Bitcoin.

Bitcoin loves its children, nieces, and nephews. Even the prodigal, black sheep scamcoins.

The altcoin hate/fear comes from the Monotheist Monopolist Maximalist Supremacists.

We Minimal Maximalists welcome a vibrant ecosystem of other coins, all trading under the watchful eye of the Holy Mother of All Blockchains.

And now the coup de grâce.

iCEBREAKER's guillotine:
Bitcoin Monopolist Maximalist Supremacists inevitably go off the rails and end up indistinguishable from Buttcoiners

In conclusion, the only people redefining the language of Bitcoin maximalism are the leaderless Mircea cult leftovers from the #bitcoin-asshats implosion who don't understand why they don't (and can't) control a narrative without facts and logic rallying support to their side. Oh, and the Bcash dead-enders too (see "iCEBREAKER's guillotine" for the reason why).

Did Shelby get a hold of your account?