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A day of long reads today

I want to share my view also.

There are two kind of people pretending the community supporters but only trying to realize their wishes.

The first one are interesting in trading only. They are trying to convince the team to create news and to spend all the money for marketing because they would like to earn money by trading. They are not interesting in product or technology. They are not interesting in real business and how to make it.

They are not interesting in product or technology. They are not interesting in real business and how to make it.

Maybe it is not bad but there is no future for this strategy. No future for project, no future for token holders.

Another group is always coming from nowhere and asking the same questions while having answers for them. They do not listen for no one and behave very rude. I think but cannot prove they are paid for it or for advertisement. Just making money.

The only thing they are trying to do is to pay attention to themselves. They really do not respect the community. Lets ignore them. It is the best way not to hear rowdyism here.

Your analysis is correct for the Telegram Group and not here, assumptions are assumptions, especially coming from all these Universa Shill/puppet accounts that are active admins themselves. It's really hard to take any conversation serious coming from a promoter, admin, dev, or person within Universa, defending Universa itself. It calls into question the entire project, is there really no real community member here willing to refute other community members arguments? It just goes to show, that community members like myself and others are in the minority, and the team themselves are trying to silence critical judgements.

Obviously everyone wants to depict the situation how they want, but there are underlying facts to what's been stated and they have not been addressed. The admins and myself played a dance, nothing came of it because they just don't know any of the information either.

At the end of the day, if a project or business doesn't want to answer to investors and token holder, then they ultimately should of never taken the route of public funding and issuing a cryptocurrency. Obviously, there are very few of you who understand cryptocurrency or even what Universa is and the situation we are in.

Most of the shills (outside of admins like you) here didn't even invest in Universa, and don't own any significant amount of UTNP/UTN. I'm not trying to undermine their opinions, but they are a lot less invested and incentivized to take action and discuss some major major faults with this entire project. Coupled with all that, we are left with scraps of information, adding fuel to the already burning fire.

Your argument is pretty pathetic in the end, sorry to say. 28+ Million funded into Universa, never forget how much money was actually raised. Shitcoins have been more successful in every area Universa is trying to tackle, on 1/10 of the budget. That says a lot. Lets not also forget all the terrible judgements that have come out of this team only 1 year into this project, from supporting scamcoins to everything development has done. Yes 1 whole year, and we are worse off in every regard (not just markets) than when the project launched. Not a single action has been taken outside of some barbie-party PR partnerships and a couple updates to their mainnet (which functions and appears exactly how it was a year ago). Despite what any admin will refute me with, they are going to talk about really trivial shit, stuff that has no real significance on this project. I have no doubt, AB wakes up every morning in misery because of his failing project.

I hope i add to his misery, so he can find some competent fucking individuals to take command and help him. Unless all those funds have evaporated, which i woulden't be at all surprised if Universa is broke. Ofc this is unfounded claim, but the way the team has been behaving depicts a deeper and more pathetic state than i could ever imagine or explain here.

Is it the way you promote your service?

I looked in your profile. You just join the topics all over the bitcointalk and criticize everything.

What is your tactics? Asking teams to pay you? Or do you think someone can take you as an advisor if you are so critical everywhere?

I can't trust a person with such behavior. And all your word have no sense after seeing the same in all topics.

Look 4-5 years into my profile, you'll find the same messages. I call out shitcoins, for the benefit of the community, out of my passion for this space. Giving people perspective into cryptocurrency, and giving critical judgement to all the whores in this space, it's easy to collect Millions and Millions in funding, but it's hard to answer tough questions. Incompetency plagues crypto and most projects. I like how people want to point out a signature and attack someone personally because they are giving critical-hard judgement. "Offense is the best form of defense" - Napoleon.

It's funny to me really, because i did the same thing with Ethereum back in 2014, and yes i did invest into that project then. But, of course it's easy to make quick judgements, conjectures and false conclusions to fit one's world-view.

Unfortunately, i'm invested into Universa and unfortunately i have to be highly critical of the project, spending my time to bring-to-light the bullshit. While you and the team are not happy i'm here, there are others who've invested into Universa and want accountability and transparency. 28+ Million in funding for this crypto and look where we are today. Amazing.

Edit: My goal and objective is quite simple: get the community talking, and to take action/give critical judgement to the Universa team. Giving a message to the core team, that their current method of doing business, growing this crypto and communicating to us is a massive failure. Never settle for a bullshit answer/response, because we'll never get anywhere.
I'm wasting my time dealing with shills.

In fact I am not really interested in discussion with you because all you do is not for community it is for yourself.

If you remember eth you know it took them 2 years just to show the first version. Universa is less then 2 years now and we have Mainnet, contractes, support and so on. And all this in very hard year for crypto.

You continue attracting attention to yourself but this topic not about you. I respect the community and will ask you questions in your topic if will have time for it.

Good luck.

Absolutely hopeless. You are clouded by ignorance and conjectures, without even reading my statements.

I'm truly done wasting my time here

The same about you. Really sorry about your poor attempts.