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Hello SaniaNet,

You forgot 1 thing in your calculation and that is that there was on exchange redemption on Cryptopia, Yobit and Tradesatoshi. Wich all had a big volume so they had a lot of coins. Here are the calculations:

Premine 3.550.000.000
You claim there is 1.711.849.758.428 PAC redeemed before june 1st that is 1.711.849.758 $PAC (seems right)
3.550.000.000-1.711.849.758 = 1.838.150.242
160.000.000 split accross 4 founders for the expenses they have made (https://blog.paccoin.net/paccoin-pac-redemption-update-improving-founding-member-transparency/)
1.838.150.242 - 160.000.000 = 1.678.150.242 $PAC
With june redemption 4000:1.
1.678.150.242 - 14.305.830 = 1.663.844.412 $PAC
On exchange redemptions: about 1.375.000.000 $PAC
1.663.844.412 - 1.375.000.000 = 288.844.412 $PAC what went to treasury for operational costs as shown in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PACcoinOfficial/comments/8wvkqt/the_paccoin_to_pac_redemption_is_officially_closed/

Kind Regards,
Koen Peters
Koen@paccoin.net

My calculations are based on the rules of exchange agreed upon by the community. Everyone can check my calculations by himself.
If the swap with the exchanges did not go according to the rules, how can you confirm that exactly 1 375 000 000 $PAC coins were sent to the exchanges? What identifiers of the relevant transactions and confirmation that these transactions belong to the exchanges?

If u read back i warned all they were stealing and changing swap dates and liein to long term holders but meh and blah to u all...

dont they realize im Ex exchange mod and seen this kind of stuff before and know about the goods and the bads devs have done before these fools were even a wink in there 2x dads eye's??!?
Warned u all....

And i was the 1 that got all there info updated on old pac on topia which made the coin look more verified which got more vol and interest in it but they dont care there just out for themselves and there backpocket.
I was 1 of the only sha miners of this coin when it was on ispace mining pool and solo mined abit and never sold at any time but tried to swap and got lied and played like a fool with no crypto clue they were just after stealing my big bag threw there lies and ponzi.

Da Ja
Stabycroc ;_)>

Conveniently you have skipped the answer on the last post you quoted above - ignoring relevant statements of a discussion is often an indication that a person is trying to deceive.
Even if that was not done on purpose, so far you have claimed / believed that I am $PAC main dev who I am not, then you mistakenly claimed that the $PAC October hard fork has to do with the swap from old paccoin to $PAC in this very thread - it is no wonder that nobody believes you, as you noted yourself already. In any case, it is clear you are set to hurt $PAC no matter the costs...

"trying to deceive" yip takes 1 to know 1 hey but at least that guy talking in facts unlike u....funny how u didn premine for total coins of old pac but didnt swap em out clean.... its like a bank swapping to new note but telling people soz u cant swap them now lol.... maybe if u done a CLEAN swap there wouldnt be this issue.

u didnt and dont show thanks/respect to those that helped old pac ( which in long term helped the rebirth of $pac due to the interest in it, im not downing the work thats put into it by the devs but to not show thanks or respect to the 1s that help build the back bone of community n da shaodws and get interest in old pac shows the devs style of play ).

U just play them like fools and swap swap dates and lie to them and dont try to mediate with them esp old guards that have large trust within large crypto community thats your mistake not mine....

u/devs had every chance to pm or work things out but nah, more lies and bs...
lol cost Roll Eyes

u cost me billions of oldpac and cost me alot of mining time and elect cost and time sorting oldpac out on topia...
some people never learn dont kick those that help ya in da nuts or they will kick back :_)>

See in crypto u win more with crypto facts not bs and lies...

Facts+alil Fu=crypto ( crypto troll ) win.

So il point out the crypto FACTs and flaws within to make other awares of $pac devs deeds...

Da ja
Stabycroc ;_)>

As to your comment on banks swapping old notes and/or old currency:

If there would be a way for old notes to generate more of them like old paccoin PoS allowed, the central banks would not allow swapping of those notes for long periods of time, since this would lead to an easy abuse of the swap. Beside, the central bank of at least one EU state does not accept certain old notes from the old currency any more - there are deadlines there as well. Therefore, again, you are simply wrong.

The rest of your post are just statements mixed with your interpretations of events and your anger - you are not providing any substantial evidence for anything that would clearly show that the $PAC team has done something wrong.

Once again talking more total crap u are as "The Bank will continue to exchange the old £5 notes indefinitely, as it would for any other bank note which no longer has legal tender status" same with any other country in EU the only note that is killed off is the 500euro note which can still be swaped..... FACTS!!!

Stop coming to the table with more bs and lies its just makes u look worse come to table with facts or good customer relational skills or go hide in ya nubcake to crypto box ya came from. FACTS!!!

The dead line for swap were changed no matter how much u change the info on that...Was no clear deadline time and this is old skool theft threw swap... wat u think ur the 1st dev team to try/do this lol.... FACTS!!!

once again im a EX exchange moderator!!!! seen more than most in crypto land would want to see!!

The rest of my post like my others are crypto facts, something your not good at aswell as customer relation skills. you could of sorted this ages ago but nah more lies and bs and try to pull wool over others eyes...

Da ja
Stabycroc ;_)>

Check the section "Schilling banknotes with expired exchange deadlines" of the following website for an example of notes which cannot be swapped to euro any more:

https://www.oenb.at/en/Cash-Management/exchanging-legacy-currencies-for-euro/Schilling.html

You have indicated that the banks always allow unlimited swap times - the above link from the national bank of an EU country proves that your claim is simply not true - there are deadlines in some cases.
This brief discussion on rather simple case of bank notes clearly shows how you handle anything which does not agree with you. You are calling people liars and whatnot even when a simple google search provides clear examples that you are not correct in your statements.

In any case, it seems that people do not trust your statements nor judgment - I certainly do not.

lol ur link so BAD....

ps ANY1 can google "can u swap discontinued note in EU" or uk or any other country and find the real truth..which i copy and pasted in last post Roll Eyes

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the only 1 u have to swap threw 3rd party is the $500 euro note.... Facts unlike ur total bs u talk over and over Roll Eyes

even with the $500 euro they allowed longer swap times ( and can still be swapped at 3rd party sites ) than u so called "fair" did then swapped and changed the date... worse than a bank u are..

u sure ur not related to the Rothschild's?

Da ja
Stabycroc :_)>

You have just called the up-to-date information on the official website of the Austrian national bank (i.e. Austrian central bank) pertaining to exchanging old notes / currencies to euro bad. For your information, the website I provided is one of the first hits when you google for "swap schilling euro", the schilling being the currency used in Austria before introduction of euro. You have just lost the last shred of the credibility you might have had.