Quote from: ICOEthics on February 01, 2019, 02:41:00 PM

Quote from: xsbtoken on February 01, 2019, 05:37:17 AM

Its the same project, but we rebranded.
Extreme sportsbook turned into BetKings
xsports.io turned into kings.ag
if you check the username ... xsbtoken started both threads.
Now i dont mind about any of this but losing my trust because of a false allegation? ... now you respond to me how is this fair?
And just to be honest i think your work is great for the crypto community don't get me wrong, but i guess it was a rush to report us as untrusted because you've seen so much in this industry, the reason we kept the same whitepaper is because it is the same project

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Back with an edit : I've wrote the source with that first screenshot paragraph we copied from that website.
Just to be sure that nobody gets confused, those are quoted as facts ... we couldn`t have scrambled them...

I see that you changed your whitepaper from yesterday and added a source at the bottom:
But we have the archived page from yesterday to compare here: Archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190201012219/https://kings.ag/kingswp.pdf

Now, there are more questions raised now and I hope you can explain to investors and to the crypto community.

Accordingly with your medium article about your previous project (xsports.io): There is a total cap of 18 million XSB for sale @ $0.25 (VIP sales) and @ $0.35 (public sale).
Source: https://medium.com/@xsbtoken/extreme-sportsbook-vip-presale-c2978e5f8b39
archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190201133650/https://medium.com/@xsbtoken/extreme-sportsbook-vip-presale-c2978e5f8b39

Quote from: xsbtoken on November 24, 2017, 02:22:07 AM

We're in the final week of the VIP Presale at Extreme Sportsbook! 28% sold - $0.25 Presale price and 10% perpetual block reward bonus! Come check out the new site and register at https://www.xsports.io
The 5% referral bonus is still available.

(archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190201144426/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2372522.0)

On your ANN for xsports you said 28% sold +10% bonus.

18,000,000 x 28% = 5,040,000 = tokens sold (bonus not included)
5,040,000 x .25 = $ 1,260,000 (xsports.io)

1 - Did xsports.io raised $ 1,260,000?[/b]
2 - XSB doesnt exist on ethereum with the name extreme sportbook or xsports. Did you register under a diferent name?
3 - Where is the contract for XSB token?
4 - Where can we find evidence of sales?
5 Where can we verify that the tokens were distributed?
6 Why rebrand? Did you post somewhere that you were re-branding?
7 Where is the team behind both projects? links, profiles, etc
8 Why there is no reference to re-branding on whitepaper and website of BetKings letting customers/investors know about such changes?
9 - Did you renew your website? It is expiring next month: Registry Expiry Date: 2019-02-13 (source: https://hypestat.com/info/kings.ag) Or are you going to rebrand again and change the name once it expires?
10 - Is your company (kings.ag) Registered? which country?
11 - Your ANN thread is self-moderated, and you are offering something for sale.
Do you know what that means to an investor and to the crypto-community? I will answer that to you - It means that you dont want to be questioned or criticized. FYI: It is a typical scammer style - offer something for sale but doesn't want questions and criticisms. And one example, you deleted what we posted on your ANN yesterday.

1 - Did xsports.io raised $ 1,260,000?d
nope, we had various offers like black friday and cyber monday, we basically doubled people's tokens.( i edited here because i didnt understood the question from the first time) We didnt sold all of our tokens, to make an overall price would be between $0.12 and $0.15 and around 7 mil tokens were distributed including the dev fund.

2 - XSB doesnt exist on ethereum with the name extreme sportbook or xsports. Did you register under a diferent name?
XSB was never an eth token, it was a real crypto currency running on its own blockchain

3 - Where is the contract for XSB token?
There was no smart contract as we didnt advertise that.

4 - Where can we find evidence of sales?
Because of the type of our project the evidences are anonymous, each individual who contributed to our presale and ico received a btc and an eth address (one per every investor)

5 Where can we verify that the tokens were distributed?
chainz.cryptoid.info/kng

6 Why rebrand? Did you post somewhere that you were re-branding?
Yes, there is an archive on the topic that was initially started. The reason of rebranding was based on our mood.

7 Where is the team behind both projects? links, profiles, etc
due to the type of the project we decided that it is better to be safe then sorry. So basically we will have a betting chain, sportsbook betting tied on the blockchain with no house rake.

8 Why there is no reference to re-branding on whitepaper and website of BetKings letting customers/investors know about such changes?
its just a V2... we didn't have a big pool of ico investors ( we have sold basically ~700k$ when bitcoin was worth ~15.000$ and eth ~1000+$ so we lost a big portion of that due to the price drop, that being said our network is running smooth for one year and the work on the next version is almost done, we already have two closed group of testers that are testing the betting wallet(platform) with us. In a week we will open the testnet platform to the public as i probably repeated myself. Yes we have delayed the release because it was a hard work to be done, but we are close to the release so we will basically keep our promise that we will have sportsbook directly tied on the blockchain. we invite you to test with us if you wish, or keep an eye on the project to see if this is a scam or not )

9 - Did you renew your website? It is expiring next month: Registry Expiry Date: 2019-02-13 (source: https://hypestat.com/info/kings.ag) Or are you going to rebrand again and change the name once it expires?
no we are not going to rebrand again, we just renew the domain for another year, yet we are considering to rebrand again to KINGS(KNG) (this is not a final decision) because we also want to build a name/legacy

10 - Is your company (kings.ag) Registered? which country?
no, we believe in real decentralization, when we will be done with the platform it will be totally decentralized either based on masternode voting (which isnt the only option) (either will be fully automated through json data feed from sportsbook events/results providers)

11 - Your ANN thread is self-moderated, and you are offering something for sale.
my ann is self moderated because as you can see on the old topic, which i added into the end of the self moderated thread, there was a bunch of people that made masked publicity on that thread (not that it was very populated to do that), so in order to keep it clean its better that i am having the control over it.

Do you know what that means to an investor and to the crypto-community? I will answer that to you - It means that you dont want to be questioned or criticized. FYI: It is a typical scammer style - offer something for sale but doesn't want questions and criticisms. And one example, you deleted what we posted on your ANN yesterday.
To keep it simple, if someone was scammed or feels scammed by our sale its free to post it here, please join our discord and telegram i will let you post this thread and there you can find all the investors that participated on our presale and ico.
and its true i do not like to be questioned, the reason that our project wasn't that promoted, is because we are letting the facts talking for us.
Like i said everyone is invited to test our platform , we will be having an announcement about that in a few days, we already have two closed test groups that can confirm that the platform is working and almost done(i repeated myself again)

i really respect your work, but im not the one ... but yes i do try to keep my devs anonymity ... crypto hasnt initially started as a "company", and most of the scamers have been backed out or owned a company. Sorry for misstypes am Romanian, english is not my first language.
For everyone else who sees this im @michaelkings on discord and telegram. I will be here for many many years.
Thanks for your work, hopefully my answers satisfies you, more than that you can join yourself and see the progress made on our project.

And about that screenshot, is it still plagiarize or how is it called if i posted the source ... its just a bunch of facts there is nothing that is "stolen" from anyone in particulary... if it still "counts" then i really am a plagiator and i am sorry in the name of that article that i didnt quoted it from the beggining ... i didnt saw anyone giving a dime about it. You got me good with that, good work and i mean it.