Re: Theymos can you explain your reasoning on merit allocated on a political basis.
sadly for you guys I have damaged my hand in a slight accident so I will be typing lot less until it is better since to type with one hand is way way slower and a post of 1000 words taking perhaps 10 mins -15mins is now going to be perhaps 1 hour or even greater..
So xtraelv you are missing my point i feel. It is perfectly legit to merit according to political views even if you openly state this so long as the post is providing value and is merit worthy. The motive should not be relevant or considered for the purposes of merit because the post itself should stand on its own to be analysed objectively.
I mean to say you do not merit in a politically driven manner is quite unlikely let's check out your bpip (this is only the top10 if feel the top20 would give an even more clear picture.
Favorite profiles to send sMerit to
Profile Number Sum
suchmoon 29 29
taikuri13 19 19
Lafu 3 19
theymos 10 10
marlboroza 9 9
o_e_l_e_o 9 9
morvillz7z 9 9
DdmrDdmr 8 8
ICOEthics 8 8
The Pharmacist 8 8
So xtraelv you are missing my point i feel. It is perfectly legit to merit according to political views even if you openly state this so long as the post is providing value and is merit worthy. The motive should not be relevant or considered for the purposes of merit because the post itself should stand on its own to be analysed objectively.
I mean to say you do not merit in a politically driven manner is quite unlikely let's check out your bpip (this is only the top10 if feel the top20 would give an even more clear picture.
Favorite profiles to send sMerit to
Profile Number Sum
suchmoon 29 29
taikuri13 19 19
Lafu 3 19
theymos 10 10
marlboroza 9 9
o_e_l_e_o 9 9
morvillz7z 9 9
DdmrDdmr 8 8
ICOEthics 8 8
The Pharmacist 8 8
Most of those merits were given well before the current voting system was introduced.
The topics they were given for are non political. I'm hardly going to put people on my list that I have never encountered before. The trustlist expanded a lot since the default trust changes. Most of those people were not on my list when the merit was given.
A list of people that are good posters (an the most merited list), that post a lot in meta and that I happen to trust is not proof of what you are saying.
You said it was for political noise.
You will notice a lot of merit given for empty or faux rebuttals to political statements based on fact here on this board a lot of the time, just as much as merit given for unsubstantiated agreement in the form of groundless opinions and ideas. There is no value here. This is merely political noise.
I would like to see the political noise posts..
I think according to the statistics distributed 474 merit on 448 different bitcointalk posts to 150 different members.
Many on my trust list have never received any merit from me.
now I wonder about your own dt inclusions exclusions
That is a very outdated list that you posted but it also had an error that I just corrected.
It is not just for DT voting. Some of the people on my list may never be eligible for DT. It is who I trust.
"I just believe that with the sheer number of negative threads you make in various places, the unwarranted personal attacks that you have made on me and others and the feedback that you have left previously for others and the people you trust and distrust does not align with my values. "
1. point me to the negative posts
2. the unwarranted personal attacks.
1. point me to the negative posts
2. the unwarranted personal attacks.
Plagiarism is plagiarism and results in a permaban. There is no valid excuse.
It is super easy to use quotes and/or list a source.
It is super easy to use quotes and/or list a source.
Please mr nobody
Stfu
Look at hypocrite ... worried about others peoples prior art..
this is just in a couple of pages of his history ...pleb
Does that count ?
Negative THREADS not one post that is makes a very valid point. That entire discussion must be viewed to understand the collision.
One instance and not an example of what you claimed... and if you read the entire thread not just one post I clearly state the point is valid. People can read the entire thread and make their own minds up. Bring me lots more - - "the sheer number of negative ...blabla"
I will peruse your posts in a few mins and locate some political bolstering of your pals for which you get or give merit. Of course with merit there is no abuse possible since there is such a degree of subjectivity. But clearly a substantial number your posts and your pals that receive and give merit are mostly just actions to bolster and support each others politics here. I can only see 120 days back how to see merit since - it was introduced? are you a merit source or not?
So anyway just gave a quick glance over you 120days merit
Now actually I will not say at all that you are a shit poster whom deserves no merits. Actually I notice I have given you merits for some nice research and I notice some of your posts add value. You are also not actually one of the persons I consider to be INTENTIONALLY fighting against a fairer system. However in my opinion it is clear that there is cycling on political (shared values and pals) which i don't object to but all persons should be allowed to narrow their focus of applying merit too.
let me list some examples it took me 5 mins to find some
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105851.msg49589048#msg49589048
politically motivated nonsense
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103387.msg49491647#msg49491647
politically motivated nonsense and making fun of a serious cycling of merits
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103387.msg49478856#msg49478856
so much merit so little content look who awards all of this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105019.msg49538086#msg49538086
merit endorsement for politics and false claims and assumptions.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093301.msg49053422#msg49053422
merit again for a proven untrustworthy person getting more merits. notice too the others supporting his request...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093287.msg49057251#msg49057251
post making fun of the fact persons have deep concerns of cycling and another cycler getting merit source
no value in that post from yahoo and another support with merits on this thread after already
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093287.msg49052232#msg49052232
again notice others meriting
these examples Plus the prior posts I made demonstrates clear that a group of "pals" share political views and even by posting piss taking jokes aligning with those views will get your merits even if those views are incorrect.
I mean there is no doubt that if you post something that aligns with a persons politics even if it is proven incorrect can get you merits here. Or even if the poster posting it is blatantly demonstrating double standards and hypocrisy will still get them merits if they are pals or their post politically align with their pals.
merit cycling is not always intentional nor to enable manipulation and selfish gain via the systems of control it can be a natural thing like: i meet some cool people who share my views and i enjoy their posts so i look for them and naturally they will attract more merit from me.
I get this but then sometimes views and opinions form that may not be correct but the group will act as a gang to incorrectly try to stop their views being demonstrated as incorrect. This is okay but not at the expense of having the power to damage other persons accounts whom are correct especially if they are presenting FACTS.
We simply need a system or systems that push for full transparency fairness and equality for each member. Anyone opposing those things is acting selfishly.