Quote from: JayJuanGee on February 09, 2019, 05:10:10 PM

Quote from: cryptohunter on February 09, 2019, 02:24:29 PM

Quote from: The Pharmacist on February 08, 2019, 09:06:48 PM

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Also to JJG

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I don't feel that pointing out wrong doing and insisting those in positions of trust here recognise this and meet there responsibility to remove such wrong doers else they will therefore be viewed as non useful in such a position can be classed as blackmail. That is the unsound and messed up logic I have heard voiced here before by trust abusers.

I doubt that I need to get into the weeds with you about all of your various points, because I consider some of those points to be matters way out of my control... part of my suggestion with the blacklisting comes from consideration that behavior of some members might cross such threshold based on a series of conduct, and certainly, I am not investigating into the matter and I would not have enough information to make a specific recommendation. You, cryptohunter, seem to suggest that the crusade against Lauda is righteous and just and carried out by innocent truth seekers (and corruption busters), but I just have so much difficulties with your whole premise when the thread in which they are propagandizing is so wild with the deletion of posts, that no sane person attempting to seek knowledge on the topic is able to follow it or even participate in it.

Personally, I find such threads, and even such assertions of fair and just to be unwarranted, when participation is being deleted, so the thread just becomes a BIG ASS circle jerk propaganda piece no longer worthy of categorization of fair and just (presuming that it ever was).

I'm glad you recognise this. I would personally see the end of all self moderated threads and local rules bullshit. People can post relevant on topic facts or opinions they substantiate with corroborating events etc or just refrain from posting. This is how the entire board should function for max efficiency.

There is no doubt that the goal is righteous. The method is for others to debate but i see it as no different as the DT's methods and they seem to shy away from anything unmoderated and now insist they can introduce echo chambers in meta via their "local rules". So why can others not do as they like without that having negative implications.

For me personally I see it more as a "if you can do it....so can we" decision. I don't feel any information could come to light that would refute successfully what has been demonstrated with observable events/facts.

If you look i see a few posts there by those that are not pro "the movement".

Lauda does some good, I have praised it in the past however using red trust to bully or silence truth needs to be fixed or they need to be removed. There is no other sensible solution. This is not blackmail this is simply undo your wrong deeds or people will get upset at unfair treatment and expecting them to take it lying down is ........ unrealistic and unfair.