Quote from: mikeywith on February 09, 2019, 10:22:24 PM

The trust system does more good than harm in terms of detecting scammers, look at the market place specially the digital goods, there are tons of confirmed scammers, members have a lead on them by seeing their trust score, there is a good part of harm indeed, but it's NOT bad enough to take over the good part.

That could be true but it does not mean over all it is net positive. You have to take into account the innocent accounts destroyed in this and the fall out from that ie the forum is getting a hostile environment and it will only get worse while persons are using red tags for anything other than scams or direct scammers. The possible implications for free speech.

Quote from: mikeywith on February 09, 2019, 10:22:24 PM

most of those people are very likely the scammers who don't like to be tagged for obvious reasons.

That is speculation and possibly not true at all

Quote from: mikeywith on February 09, 2019, 10:22:24 PM

almost everywhere on the internet where there is any type of trading, there is a trust system , they call it review and feedback, some different terms and some technical differences do exist here , but overall it's all the same concept, the only advantage / disadvantage the forum has over most other places - is that they give much more weight to DT feedback than everybody else, it's a great feature to prevent trust farming , but when used in the wrong manner, it creates the mess we have now.

getting rid of DT is not the same as scrapping the trust system.

although a broken trust system that can be used to suffocate free speech is worse than no trust system altogether.

Quote from: mikeywith on February 09, 2019, 10:22:24 PM

this is simply because the trust system is being misused sometimes, some members base their feedback on personal b.s or self-interest. this can be solved by enforcing some rules on DT members to maintain the trust system and keep it on track ,whereby only scammers should be tagged.

it makes sense that the majority of complains come from non scammers, because scammers don't really complain, they just move on and create a new account, this again all comes down to how do some DT members use the trust system terribly.

Was not expecting this........... Fully agree with this 100%

Quote from: mikeywith on February 09, 2019, 10:22:24 PM

exactly, tweaking is important, in fact simple tweaks will do the trick, a single rule that states "any DT member who tag anyone for non-scam related subject and without a proper evidence will be unlisted from DT" -This will stop 90% of complains, the scoring will be more accurate.

Yes I agree with this part too.

Either tighten DT up so that abuse is prevented or punished and then reversed. Or scrap DT and push people to make their own custom lists. Or just call the entire thing feedback and people have to read it all and investigate the persons full history here.

I would rather see a few risk takers who do not do their homework possibly get scammed than see the freedom of speech here crushed and the entire place become a hostile environment.

DDE should eventually fix all of this to a degree.