Quote from: V-D-S on February 18, 2019, 09:47:47 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 29, 2019, 05:40:05 PM

Quote from: V-D-S on January 29, 2019, 04:10:23 AM

The majority of immigrants just fly in apparently. ...

The majority of immigrants of the type we are discussing come over the southern border and have never had a passport in their life. The are recently some refugees, such as from Syria, who also do not have passports, or even identity cards.

Right. You know, I wonder if making labor-residencies more mainstream would help. America has lost a certain edge by not having a low-cost manufacturing/production sector. In Florida, (and many other places), farms are allowed to hire masses of immigrants at below minimum wage salaries and in exchange host and feed them. However this practice is much more limited than it could be. These farms, as I understand, lack transparency are full of unethical practices. I wonder just how difficult it would be to scale-up this system, regulate it, and provide a safety zone where they could work, get an education, and (they or their children) could fully immigrate after many years.

Could this even work without inadvertently creating a caste system?
What would be a controllable number of non-U.S. citizens? millions? 10s of millions?

It is basically indentured servitude in practice, but actually, as long as they are not abused... It seems like a better idea than leaving good people stranded or letting immigration be such a free-for-all.

You think very clearly. In a practical sense, there is no problem with the USA issuing "Work Visas" that do not lead to citizenship.

Unfortunately, "nothing is what it seems." The entire dispute over immigration and allegation immigration in the USA is over the Democrat's desire to have more immigrants quickly become citizens because they believe these will largely be Democratic voters.

It has nothing then to do with the welfare of the people, or the best interests of the country, only the power interest of a selfish political group.