Quote from: ric9493968 on February 20, 2019, 12:59:56 AM

Quote from: Freaky_Angelus on February 19, 2019, 12:19:51 PM

Quote from: ric9493968 on February 18, 2019, 11:08:58 PM

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Back to GPU mining but that quote is back 2 pages so here's a blank one Tongue

So, while I first want to express jealousy about free el. and the hardware apparently also at hand... the rest of the world works by financial return of investment rules and is bound by el prices and investment needing to be made out by themselves (and not their boss).

So for this next part I don't care if you have a full Mhs, GPU-favoured is not defined by the absolute hashrate you get. To be more clear, the cost of that 1x GTX 1080 is twice a bare-bone 1700 setup (comparison ~600 vs. ~300, both can be cheaper if you're lucky with the deals...) and then even before I OC that Ryzen setup, I have headroom on the EL consumption. Now that 35 khs is interesting, because the last time I heard that value it was for a 1080Ti and not a standard 1080 but, let's assume I'm wrong as I don't have that card and you get 35 Khs on it.

That still means your 1080 + system overhead is marginally better than the 1700 setups.
1080 - 230W + 10Wsys (assumed 6x GPU on 1x 60W system overhead) - 35 khs@240W@600
2x R7 in mild OC - 2x 120W - ~32 khs in native linux at barely any OC - 32 khs@240@600

I call that on par, especially as I know I can push the two R7's past that 35 khs if I OC them to 4.0Ghz and whatever extra and run a clean linux. So in your free el situation I can do 36-38 khs@600 vs. your 35@600 (yes 18~19 khs on a Ryzen if you tweak the shit out of it and don't care for the whistling steam engine it becomes). I don't recommend it, but to just point out free el is working against your case.

Now, then ROI comes by for a second installment. The two R7 setups have a much higher second hand value than the 1080 after 1 year of usage, although Nvidia is currently helping with their horrible marketing strategy to extend the value a lot Tongue

, with two systems a much lower risk of loss of return is as well in play. Selling two systems for 200 min. after a year isn't that hard where 400 for a used GPU for mining becomes harder (again, that's the normal rate of price loss for GPU's which Nvidia is influencing, yet I can get them at 350 right now...).

So for any person buying, running and mining URX solely, that GPU setup isn't that favoured in hash per watt and higher in risk in investment.
At best, GPU is on-par and I would suggest you enjoy the hash while it allows GPU's to get any.

And yes there is also AMD GPU... which is so great we do not go any further into explaining this... (guess what I got....)

i stopped mining this coin, moved onto Elicoin which i must say is also a hard coin to mine but not as hard as URX, for URX its not worth it. Like i said in an above comment, just wait for the coin to tank again and pick some up. I originally wanted to prove that the coin was GPU mineable, so is EVERY coin out there, i mean it too. Someone has a GPU miner for every so called " cpu only " coin. i know because i have all the miners that do it. Yespower, YesScrpt16/32, Argon2D, whatever, its GPU mineable. Hell it works reverse too, i CPU mine ravencoin, veil, genx, wavi..and GPU mine them too when i feel like it. I just dont feel like beating up on my 1080 anymore. Good write up tho!

"Someone has a GPU miner for every so called " cpu only " coin" i know because i have all the miners that do it
Probably true....but take Argon2D for example, it has taken 3 years for that miner to become available, and even then most gpu miners, only over Argon2 for Credits/dynamic/Uraniumx, they dont cover all variants of Argon2d
The main point with gpu mining, is its much easier to scale....i know you can to put together say 8 x 1800x, or 8 x Threadripper rigs, but by the time you got 8 x mbs/cpus/ram/ssd/psu, etc, its not just the cost and efficiency, but the space it all takes up, so even if gpu is only as efficeint as cpu, the scalablity is so much easier....the other side is there are already HUGE gpu farms, so the second a gpu miner comes out, they can divert 10, 100, even a 1000 1080tis at a coin.
That to me is the main issue when someone develops a gpu miner, cos that is exactly what they do, then when they realise its not worth it, usually within hrs to days, they move on, leaving the diff so high that the coin is effectively dead.

I digress, back to your point, yes, someone can develop any form of miner (cpu/gpu/fpga/asic, even hdds) to solve any given algo given enough time and effort.
Thats why i believe the very best coins should only ever be mined thru the wallet....so pools, no external miners, nothing. That way at least you have to have 1 pc per wallet. Stopping that wallet running on a virtual pc also helps to keep cloud mining in check.... (think drm).