Quote from: LavaLamp52 on February 24, 2019, 05:37:58 PM

Good to hear there is progress.
But I have a short question, I have Qora tokens sitting on openLedger.
How do I get these off the exchange and into the new version?

We have made multiple announcements both here and in Discord regarding both OpenLedger and Poloniex coins.

We as the development team have no control over these centralized exchanges, and as such, cannot do anything to assist you in obtaining those coins.

The 'CEO' of OpenLedger, has said that he will allow withdrawals, but thus far I have not heard of a successful one actually taking place.

Since there are multiple exchanges that are going about things in this manner, not allowing coins to be received by the rightful owners, the only way forward is to simply ignore all old coins on the old chain, and give rewards to the people who supported the chain in other ways, such as described above with the 'minting accounts'.

This means, as we have said multiple times... THERE WILL BE NO SWAP. THERE WILL BE NO MOVING FROM OLD CHAIN TO NEW CHAIN IN REGARD TO COINS.

The only way you'll be able to obtain a 'minting account', and therefore a portion of the block reward once qortal project chain begins, is to:

1. prove you have supported the previous chain, by verification that you have run a node, and staked during the last few months when not many people were, due to the fact that there was no staking reward. This alone will prove that you supported the project, wanting to see it survive, regardless of the fact that you were not receiving monetary reward for doing so, and is sufficient to obtain a minting account on qortal project chain.

2. prove you have contributed in other ways to the project's success, via explaining and showing what you have done to the community. At which point, we will put a vote up for the community to choose whether your efforts were 'sufficient' to obtain a minting account, and at which 'weight' or 'level' the account shall be started.

(The methods for which the accounts will be 'leveled' at the start, will be based on the level of effort and contribution the user had put into the project's success. The development team will receive 'founder accounts' that will start at a 50% higher level to ensure the stability and game-free nature of the platform from the start, along with a multiplier on the weight that will slowly decrease as time goes on, and more minting accounts are alive, and leveling themselves. Eventually the founder accounts will essentially be just like any other account, but they will always contain a slight multiplier, making them always just a little bit more weighted for voting purposes.)

We believe in the concepts of Decentralization, community run projects, and hearing the community's suggestions, we also believe that simply because you purchased a bunch of coins, does not entitle you to a bunch of reward, when many many hours and efforts and dollars were put in by those looking to actually assist the project's success.

Being someone who sits around, doesn't even notice the coin was delisted from an exchange, and/or doesn't even attempt to run a node or help stake to move the chain (which is very simple, and doesn't require much effort, or money...) then decides that once years of development efforts have been completed, and many other contributions have been made by many people in attempt to keep the chain and platform moving forward, to all of a sudden act like the project is something they care about... doesn't make said someone worthy of reward...

However, that being said... if that said someone were to now decide they actually did want to assist, and put forth their best effort to do so in whatever fashion they can... they then could be worthy of attaining a minting account, but will be up to the community to decide, if it was anyone who isn't able to be proven by the blockchain itself, from staking and obviously assisting the core of the chain in moving forward for the past couple years.

I realize that some people may find this to be unorthodox, or 'unfair'... however, I firmly believe it is exactly the opposite, and the rewarding of people for nothing is something that needs to be ended in the crypto space especially, and in the world overall. That is one of the main things that the blockchain revolution should be addressing, but seems to be doing exactly the opposite... which I find to be quite sad.

We hope to bring a new set of concepts, and bring a REAL decentralized project into the world, where the core concepts of honesty, openness, and trustlessness, with community run function, and a real method of voting that isn't reliant upon how much money the user has... and show how we believe the blockchain world SHOULD be. This project, is going to be the beginning of this set of ideals, followed closely by multiple clone platforms that have similar goals, utilizing slightly different 'proof of concept' setups to see which of them will ultimately work out best.

How will we 'move into the future' without first changing the way things are done, that caused us to be where we are now? In the grand scheme, don't we all wish the world were improved in regard to the 'lazy middlemen' running everything? I certainly do. We aim to address that with our concepts, and implement them into the platforms that will hopefully end up running systems long into the future that show these concepts are real, and can be successfully carried out in a way that is honest, transparent, and frankly... AWESOME.

(sorry if I 'ranted' a little bit here... but I am very passionate about these ideals, and truly hope our platforms can demonstrate to everyone the correct ways of executing a truly decentralized project. Lacking the rewards system for those who have more money already, and replacing that with one that rewards efforts, and things that are actually beneficial. Just because one has money, does not make them better or more important than anyone else.)