Quote from: ACGCrypto on March 05, 2019, 10:44:07 AM

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Quote from: ACGCrypto on February 27, 2019, 11:29:45 PM

Tao has just been listed on qTrade: https://qtrade.io/market/TAO_BTC

https://twitter.com/qTradeio/status/1100824440315826182

AltMarket should be fully open to the public for trading within approximately the next week, and there's also a mobile wallet coming in the near future. Been a long wait, but it's about to all pay off. Cool

FYI this has now changed to "April", according to a recent reddit post.

No, it has not been changed. The community member who posted that wrote "Alt.Market is currently being tested by community members and is slated to be available to the general public by April. Some screenshots have leaked to Slack/Discord members and there is a lot of buzz about how sveldt and intuitive the interface is"

So in other words people are already using it (not you) and it will be available -- by -- April. Which obviously would mean in March. Roll Eyes

It's cute how closely you pay attention to what's going on, but then try to act all dismissive of it.

"AltMarket should be fully open to the public for trading within approximately the next week."

I'm not sure what your measure of "approximately" is, but saying "approximately next week" and by that meaning "within just over a month" seems a bit disingenious.

Almost as disingenious as saying "we intentionally limited the presale to $100k" when you mean "we tried having a presale for $30M but only raised $100k".

First off, you are basically representing three separate statements written by at least three different individuals as all being my statements, which seems disingenuous to me. So perhaps you are projecting.

As for the time frame, from what I had recently heard when I posted upthread, it was currently being given final tests by a small number of invited community members, and was likely to be open to the general public within the immediate future. I didn't have a date, so I purposefully tried to write a somewhat imprecise statement with some wiggle room, and phrased to make it clear this wasn't an exact date.

A different community member, also not knowing an exact date, wrote their own imprecise statement (as precise as he felt he could be given the level of info either of us have) and gave himself more generous leeway by saying "by April." That could mean tomorrow or it could mean three weeks from now, I don't know exactly. But I don't feel either of those statements are particularly disingenuous.

The ONLY reason the AltMarket isn't already open for business is because they've made it this far on a shoestring budget - unlike so many token ICOs that raised tens of millions and have done far less or been outright scams. The ODBcoin sale was supposed to be very heavily promoted and hyped to bring in a crowd of hiphop fans new to crypto, raising money for YDB and his mom, aka ODB's widow, and a 50% split with AltMarket. This money was to help finish the last legs of the work on the exchange and launch it with a splash last month, but the Wu-Tang Clan and YDB never did anything to promote the coin sale, so it didn't bring in the expected money and Bryce had to raise funds elsewhere.

From my understanding, it was ODB's widow who got cold feet at the last minute and refused to sign off on promoting it. So the sale was very restricted and only 13,808 coins were made. Just $138.08 would've gotten you 1% off all of those suuuuper scarce officially licensed ODB/Wu-Tang coins, but I'm guessing you missed out on that.

5 year exclusive contracts, my friend. The next artist offerings will be coming soon, with several more this year and everything set now to make them each a big success. Each of which will be exclusively traded against Tao, and protected by those 5 year exclusives.

Bryce raised the money he needed even if it was later than planned, so the AltMarket will open in the near future, regardless of what the exact date is. Angry

$30M? OMG are you seriously going back to that semantic nonsense? I answered this months ago the last time you brought up this disingenuous interpretation of a 2016 press release:

Quote from: ACGCrypto on December 12, 2018, 01:12:40 AM

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that quite a few of those statements actually were made by you, Bryce, but let's leave that aside.

Yes, this project has an unfortunate tendency to be consistently juuuuust ahead of a major break-out. Just stick around a little more, buy or fund a little more stuff, wait a little longer. We'll SOON be mooning. And then have a completely undeserved spat of bad luck due to circumstances completely out of your control. It's the SEC, it's the exchanges, it's your clients, it's the market, it's the hired developers, it's the partners, it's the community not doing enough or doing the wrong thing or moving in the wrong direction. You never do anything wrong. You're always ahead of the curve, the smartest people around, massively influential and just need the rest of the world to see your brilliance.

Meanwhile, you tend to consistently misrepresent the progress and/or history of the project, by claiming that the raising of $100k instead of $30M was intentional, that all sorts of things were intentionally built as "experiments" or "proofs-of-concept" rather than, well, just not working or being good ideas in the first place. That AltMarket will be coming SOON, when it must have been completely obvious even at the time that it was no where near finished (July 4th? Really?).

As for the Tao-exclusivity of future sales - that doesn't sound like it would help sales? Why would any artist agree to tie themselves to the price of a basically untraded cryptocurrency? Why would fans go through the hassle of getting TAO instead of just joining a fanclub or Patreon or something similar?

What makes you think that AltMarket could handle the sudden influx of volume when it can't even get up and running in the first place?