Quote from: tarmo888 on March 05, 2019, 04:02:52 PM

Lol @ "Byteball dev". Couple of PRs and commits on Github doesn't make you a Obyte developer. You have just made some chatbots that hardly use any Obyte core functionality. You could easily port them to FB Messenger, are you going to call yourself FB Messenger developer then?

Slack was inferior service for Obyte because you don't understand the problems that the team had with Slack. Your solution to turn Obyte Slack into payed community is not a solution for a platform, which wants to be open for everybody, so Discord is better for that. Also, Slack was hell to moderate, Discord has better options for that because it is aimed to communities like that. Only things Discord is inferior to Slack: threaded comments and quoting.

I never said "scaling can only come AFTER adoption", what I said was that there is no point to focus on scaling when there is no need for scaling yet. Year ago Obyte could do 15TPS, now it can do already 30TPS on average (peaks can go even into hundreds or thousands), but the need for TPS is still below 1TPS. It is not only my opinion, it's opinion of others too, that's why it's not a main focus. I am just focal about it. Obyte already scales better than Bitcoin and Ethereum on base layer.

Tony knows how to scale it, it just not the main focus. Some steps for scaling has already been done with improving the SQL queries. Obyte core is not memory heavy or CPU heavy, it's heavy on the disk, so there are plenty of opportunities to scale from there (different databases have been tested). Eventually the whole ocore could be rewritten with C++ or some other low-level language (Node.js was chosen only to iterate faster in the beginning). And then there is layer-2, which Obyte haven't even touched yet.

I consider Hyena a lambo boi, you are the one who is looking at the exit sign, I don't plan to exit nor buy any lambos. I just don't like people shit-talking without actually helping the project any way.

Quote from: tarmo888 on March 05, 2019, 04:02:52 PM

Lol @ "Byteball dev". Couple of PRs and commits on Github doesn't make you a Obyte developer. You have just made some chatbots that hardly use any Obyte core functionality. You could easily port them to FB Messenger, are you going to call yourself FB Messenger developer then?

Apparently you have no idea what I've done for Byteball, not surprisingly though, because I was here long before you. Not only in terms of Byteball but in cryptocurrency general. You can see from my bitcointalk forum profile that I joined in early 2012. I got into bitcoin when it was cheap (4$) and I got into byteball when 1 gbyte was 10$. not to mention all the free gbytes I received during the initial distribution thanks to the bitcoins I linked. I am not surprised though, that you keep spitting bile at me, because you are one jealous (and fat) laggard which is apparent in your behavior. You appeared on the scene during the euphoria phase of the last rally and you know it and you are trying to hide it by being quick to downtalk "those other lambo boys" (but not you, oh no, you are not like THEM). You compensate with petty talk and arguments the shortcomings in other aspects of your image, trying too hard to fit in and "contribute". It's so obvious and it's disgusting.

As for my contribution, I have developed a functional Byteball casino which goes much farther than just a chat bot messenger. Not to mention that I provided the community with a C++ function for a byteball address validation and a bb2tcp proxy that let's anyone easily convert byteball connections to plaintext TCP. I guess while you've been busy talking the talk I've been busy walking the walk, as I disappeared from the slack roughly at the time I started developing the Byteball casino project (almost 2 years ago). But, you? A web site that puts your avatar inside an O-letter?! WTF? Are you making a joke here or what? You are talking about contribution and your own contribution is like a rookie level programming task completed by someone who even didn't learn software development in school but took it up by themselves as a hobby.

Quote from: tarmo888 on March 05, 2019, 04:02:52 PM

I never said "scaling can only come AFTER adoption", what I said was ...

Softening things up there, aren't we? You have now resorted to shifting goalposts like all losers do when they have no other options. No problem, you stupidly chose the worst position to defend, so changing your opinion now is perfectly fine. What is not fine is the fact that you don't have balls to admit your mistakes and you are trying to smoothly shift the goal post without losing face.

Quote from: tarmo888 on March 05, 2019, 04:02:52 PM

Slack was inferior service for Obyte because you don't understand the problems that the team had with Slack. Your solution to turn Obyte Slack into payed community is not a solution for a platform, which wants to be open for everybody, so Discord is better for that. Also, Slack was hell to moderate, Discord has better options for that because it is aimed to communities like that. Only things Discord is inferior to Slack: threaded comments and quoting.

A paid slack plan allows guest access. The platform would still be open for everybody. There was no good reason to switch away from slack and you know it. I never joined that discord and I never will. Probably best would be to fork the Byteball platform to maintain the original Tony's vision as defined in the Byteball's whitepaper Grin

. It would be good in a sense that we would also get rid of cockroaches like you, Tarmo, because clearly you have no understanding of the economic incentives that are of grave importance when it comes to scaling Byteball for the whole world. Right now, the worst thing about Byteball is the community as it's been infested by brainwashed moon lambo boys who think that cryptos are all about holding hands and doing pump-and-dumps around a socialist campfire.

Byteball could scale really well if the economic incentives were right. It requires witnesses to professionalize and invest in hardware. Right now the greatest threat to byteball is the widespread fallacy that home users need to run nodes and validate transactions. Tony was smart enough to provide the lite wallet from the beginning but the idea of professional nodes has not been emphasized enough. I have not yet lost all hope for Byteball, but recent developments are not to be proud of. For example, the Byteball Improvement Protocol initiative could flush the whole project down the toilet. Just because Blockstream Token (BTC) uses it does not mean it's a good idea. You see, a base layer of money has to be rock solid and never change so that businesses could build on it. Bitcoin Core is doing it wrong and I am hurt to see Byteball going the same direction. You don't see the IP or TCP changing once every 6 months, do you? Internet would not exist if IP had an IPIP (internet protocol improvment protocol) and self-proclaimed shitlords using it as a personal experiment for whatever wild ideas they get.

The good thing is that it is true that with proper economic incentives, hardware and software, Byteball would have no problem scaling for the whole world. Also, Tony hasn't personally said anything stupid yet, so even if the community is full of brainwashed morons such as Tarmo, as long as Tony is not listening them and drives the project to the right direction, I can keep building on Byteball.