Quote from: hilariousetc on March 05, 2019, 12:28:03 PM

I messaged theymos about it but didn't get a response. I even asked if the sig ban feature can be extended to Globals as I would much rather issue them instead of permanent bans, especially in cases like this. I would suggest that ChiBitCTy PM theymos and state his case and maybe a sig ban will be given instead of the perma one. Maybe collecting some vouches from established members on why he should be allowed back would help his case.

Quote from: cryptohunter on March 04, 2019, 02:55:33 AM

I'm interested to hear suchmoons view on this case actually. Where is she? probably panting away replying to me somewhere else. I mean it was her that snitched him in right in the first place? he probably does not send mining gear up front or something.
Let's hear her views. I mean if she says it's okay now then you have a good chance of it happening I would guess.

Like i said i think just take away his sig and give him another go. A real member does not care too much about a sig anyway.

It doesn't really matter who "stitched" them up but he has made several comments about the possibility of alternatives to plagiarism in the thread I created about the possibility of them:

Quote from: suchmoon on December 21, 2018, 03:20:08 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on December 21, 2018, 02:48:49 PM

Instead of removing a signature, it can contain some public shaming saying it's removed because of plagiarism and user has to earn xx more Merit before it's enabled again.

Yes.

And only apply that to users who actually have a signature to lose, e.g. Sr. and up. Lower ranks should stay permabanned. Most plagiarism is done by newbies so they wouldn't be deterred by a sig ban.

I would imagine many shitposters would simply abandon such accounts and try to buy new ones.

Quote from: Harkorede on December 21, 2018, 03:16:54 PM

a.) How often the user has plagiarized (and the last copied and pasted post)

There is no feasible way to detect that.

Quote from: Harkorede on December 21, 2018, 03:16:54 PM

b.) The reputation of the user and/or time spent on the forum
c.) Values that user adds to forum (Why or why not they should be allowed)

Highly subjective and would just devolve into massive flame wars.

Quote from: suchmoon on December 21, 2018, 05:50:06 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on December 21, 2018, 05:14:24 PM

I actually already posted a potential solution to this

Quote from: Quickseller on December 18, 2018, 05:01:28 AM

Separately, there is an argument that bans for plagiarism should be delayed by a week, or 20 posts from the time a moderator discovers the infraction. The purpose of this would be too see if they will continue plagiarizing many times, or if they did something stupid on one or two posts. Someone who copies 5-10 of their next 20 posts is clearly not someone we want around, while someone who copies 1-2 ever might deserve some leniency, especially if they make generally insightful posts. This would help decide if someone will have *really* "learned their lesson" and wont make the mistake of copying content a second time.

That's not a solution. 1 of 20 is still horrible and who's gonna track the ~1000 users every week?

Quote from: The Pharmacist on December 21, 2018, 05:27:44 PM

So I don't think a signature restriction would work at all--they'll just abandon the account.

Then it's equivalent to permaban for those users - great. But it gives the option for the few that might be genuinely remorseful.

Quote from: The Pharmacist on December 21, 2018, 05:27:44 PM

The merit solution has problems, too, unless it's a very high amount. We know merit gets traded and sold.

It should be a high enough amount to force most shitposters into a voluntary permaban. 50-100 should do it. If one or two buy/hack/etc enough merits to get back to spamming we'll get them next time. Now that I think about it - if someone wants to waste merits (legit or not) on this - more power to them.

Quote from: The Pharmacist on December 21, 2018, 05:27:44 PM

I voted for keeping things as they are.

I voted for the merit option AND to keep as is. Not my fault that voting options are bipolar

I said snitched not stitched but yes it is pretty much the same in her case.

Well, why not take some initiative. Create a list put those copy and pasters on it with a date and tell them they will not be allowed to have a sig for 2 years or whatever.

If they are caught with one on. We have plenty of snitchers like suchmoon for that (give them those new shiny snitcher badges they are begging for). They then put a sig on in that time frame...boom they are banned.

There will not be a huge amount of those that can prove net positive achievements and were not financial copy and pasting so will not be a massive list.