Quote from: squatz1 on March 06, 2019, 05:10:57 AM

Quote from: jademaxsuy on March 06, 2019, 04:49:56 AM

Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

As I said originally, I'm not talking about the holiday betters or the people that do it just because the people in the office are doing it just to fit in. I'm talking about the people who are nonstop about the fact that they have a 'sure thing' or that this is the game that's going to turn them around. Stuff like that.

There's no real way for this sort of gambler to be able to keep it without the emotions, as they thrive off of the winnings and the losses and never are able to quench the thirst of gambling. It's a never ending battle that you're never going to be able to fully leave unless you go COLD TURKEY.

This normalization of certain types of betting: Be it DraftKings or one of those weekly sports betting, or just some random bets you'd make at school with some friends are going to be the downfall of this newest generation.

i think every gambler is different, i'm not a gambler who does social gambling/ or just occasionally, i do it alot.

but i gamble what i can afford, for months at a time and, when i don't have enough to throw away i can quit for months at a time. and i know almost every gambler has said they can stop at any time, but i have done it dozens of times.
I have won thousands and didn't feel the need to keep going so i cashed out.
i have won 500$+ dozens of times and felt like it wasn't enough to cashout, and lost it. a majority of what i play is 5-10$ deposits so these would be 30x-50x wins and i'm not satisfied. i'm not rich or making great money, but when i cashout i want to get something nice. but if i didn't go for those big cashouts i'd probably still average around the same winnings.

my definition of a degen is someone who can't stop, and someone willing to scam or steal just to play. i think it's fine to gamble nonstop if you're winning or losing and not effecting you financially, if you feel you need it instead of want it it's also a problem.

my last few big wins was years ago, and i still consider being in the green
"nonstop about the fact that they have a 'sure thing' or that this is the game that's going to turn them around. Stuff like that."
i think only a gambler can point this out, you will probably think i'm as crazy as the ones youre talking about but,
there are alot of gamblers who make a living gambling, that other gamblers see as idols. its no different from an artist wanting a 1 in a million contract and refusing to giveup on their dreams because it's not realistic.
it's impossible to make a living playing dice,roulette etc, unless you find and exploit which many has done in the past but that's not my point. games where you can gain an edge and perfect it, i think that's what a majority of players mean when they want to make a living playing it.

also
A perfect example would be from my past experience.
I had an unrealistic goal to win every poker tournament i played.
even though freeroll players are worse this was 12 different tournaments that day, with 1000-1400 players in each. i came in first out of 10 of those and in the top 3 all 12 games
building those stacks, avoiding badbeats, plus multitabling some of those, thinking about how it impossible it seems and achieving it the one day i make it my goal.

I don't intend to make a living gambling but i think anyone that envisions the impossible has a better shot then those that limit their selves.

I'm everything you described as a degen, and i'm perfectly happy with the way i gamble, it doesn't fit my definition of a degen but like i said there's alot of different types of gamblers and your definition covers almost all of them, overall i think you are judging from lack of information and experience. and the only way to change your mind is if you change your definition of what a degen is.

Quote from: squatz1 on March 06, 2019, 02:47:58 AM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

just because your friends gamble doesn't mean they're addicted.
I also started gambling at 13 lol, if the person is prone to addiction i don't see any logic with your argument "wait till they see the horrible outcomes" as an adult" as a child their losses would be limited and would be more likely to get help at an early age.

"we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life."

i don't know what country you're in, but most countries thats known for gambling, united states,mascow,macau,sidney,dubai offer some level of freedom to do the things you genuinely enjoy. ""but yeah, no one actually enjoys it we forced it into our culture so the minority which are addicted gamblers can suffer. while the rest of the gamblers keeping these big casinos in business are doing it just to laugh at the addicts"""

your'e really misinformed